This is a discussion on politics and the second amendment within the General Firearm Discussion forums, part of the Related Topics category; How is Ron Paul a liar? Ron Paul lost all credibility with me, when he stated he would be willing to appoint congressman Dennis J. ...
How is Ron Paul a liar? Ron Paul lost all credibility with me, when he stated he would be willing to appoint congressman Dennis J. Kucinich Ohio 10th district, to a cabinet level position in a Ron Paul administration. Can someone show me how Dennis J. Kucinich is a defender of the second amendment? Can you find evidence in the congressional voting record, showing were Kusinich has voted for gun rights? You may think Ron Paul is not a liar, but is he credible? More important is he quilified for the office of the President? Ron Paul and Dennis Kusinich where among only 6 congressman who voted against H.R. 5552 later becoming H.R. 510 signed into law of all people President Obama, which allowed manufactorers of ammunition to pay the sales taxes on their sales, every three months (like every other business) as opposed to every 15 days. The NRA-IL lobbied for this law. Amoung others opposing this measure were Maxine Waters, D-CA John Conyers,D-MI. Can you get any further left than these folks?
The law passed on a vote of 412-6 and the law only dealt with that item, Nothing else. In addition Congressman Paul also voted against the Lawful Commerce in Arms Act that shields firearms manufacturers and firearms dealers from frivolous, politically-motivated lawsuits. So the only two recent bills aiding the firearms industry were opposed by Congressman Paul; a man hailed by many as a “true pro-gun Congressman.”
The law did not deal specifically with ammunition for starters. Here is the bill text - "H.R.510 - To amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to require that the payment of the manufacturers' excise tax on recreational equipment be paid quarterly.". Ron Paul probably also opposed the original tax code requiring those businesses to pay every 15 days. The man hates taxes. This bill was also not aimed at helping the firearms industry....it was aimed at manufacturers of recreational equipment.
Miracles happen, not in opposition to Nature,
but in opposition to what we know of Nature.
You say the 2nd Ammendment isn't about hunting, home defense, or target shooting. I would like to politely disagree, to me it is about that and great deal more. It is just perspective. To me it is about freedom from fear of violent crimes in the home and on the street. It is about putting meat on the table (for those super educated hambuger does not come from the supemarket it comes from a cow and is sold in the supermarket). It is about having fun putting holes in a piece of paper, popping ballons, bouncing tin cans, busting clay pegions. It is about all this and more. It is about tradition, freedom, safety, fun and appreciation of sometimes beautiful pieces of art made from steel, wood, ivory, and other materials just to name a few. Stay safe.
To me its not just about the second amendment, but it is all the amendments and freedoms we are afforded in the constitution.
Government is suppose to fear the people, but I am seeing that being turned the other way around. The people are now fearing our government with all the powers they are affording themselves. I talk about the patriot act, illegal wire tapping, water boarding, indefinite detentions (now for American citizens too), etc etc etc. Now just recently, most Americans have lost all of our financial power. Our homes are being foreclosed on because of predatory lending, all of our jobs are being shipped abroad for mere corporate profit, and this country's major export is refined fuel.
Now to add insult to injury, corporations are now people and money is speech?
But what really gets my hide is the "sheep" that follow in lock step with this stupid ideology that somehow if we keep feeding the greedy and destroying our environment where our own children are getting sick, homeless, and starving....that somehow it will "trickle down" (like crumbs from the dinner table) for all the rest of us!!!
When you feed a plant, you don't just sprinkle water on the leaves. You water the ROOTS!!!!
Genuine Libertarian view huh?
"Boy, it sure burns me to have a national holiday for that pro-communist philanderer, Martin Luther King. I voted against this outrage time and time again as a Congressman. What an infamy that Ronald Reagan approved it! We can thank him for our annual Hate Whitey Day." - The Ron Paul Survival Report
-It is a seriously scary thought that there are subsets of American society that think being intellectual is a BAD thing...
To say that I don't like Ron Paul and believe he is neither qualified not intelligent enough to be President of the USA is a monumental understatement. Are you upset that Obama wants to cut the military as drastically as is currently being reported? That is nothing compared to what Ron Paul has said he wants to do to it.
Ron Paul also doesn't agree that Israel should exist. Our best ally and the bastion of real democracy in the Middle East and he doesn't think it is anything we need to show support for.
I'm not a big fan of any of the current GOP candidates but Ron Paul is way down on the list of those running.