Straw Purchase?

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    Straw Purchase?

    My sister has found a black powder (muzzle loader) .50 rifle at a local pawn shop and wants to purchase it for her boyfriend. Problem is that she's asked me to purchase it for her while they are out somewhere and hide it in the house so he won't know about it until Christmas.

    Since it's a muzzle loader, I don't believe a 4473 form will be required, but could purchasing this rifle for her to give to him be considered a strawman sale?

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    No.

    If you don't know that he is a prohibited person, and she isn't a prohibited person there is nothing that would make it a straw purchase.
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    If it is not a TC Encore or a NEF Huntsman that have interchangeable barrels then you are fine.

    A surefire way to know is to go and try to buy it. If they make you start to fill out paperwork then you should stop at that point.
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    Even though it is a muzzleloader, many states classify them as firearms, but thankfully don't require the paperwork. It may or may not be a straw purchase - you should ask your State Police if in doubt.

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    You should be good to go as long as Bloomberg and Co. don't get wind of it.

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    It is perfectly legal for a legal buyer to give a non prohibited person a firearm as a gift.

    Federal Firearms Laws do not apply to muzzleloaders. Its the very reason that they can be bought from a catolgue company like Cabelas or Sportsmans Guide and have them shipped right to your front door.
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    You could always do a bill of sale with your sister if you are worried about it coming back on you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HotGuns View Post
    It is perfectly legal for a legal buyer to give a non prohibited person a firearm as a gift.

    Federal Firearms Laws do not apply to muzzleloaders. Its the very reason that they can be bought from a catolgue company like Cabelas or Sportsmans Guide and have them shipped right to your front door.
    Which I've never understood.. I mean, you can kill somebody just as easily with a muzzleloader as any other firearm. They even have handguns that are muzzleloading. So why do they classify them differently?
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    Depends where you live In Illinois all BP firearm sales have to go thru a FFL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rogertc1 View Post
    Depends where you live In Illinois all BP firearm sales have to go thru a FFL.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ksholder View Post
    Just another reason not to live in the Peoples' Republic of Illinois.
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