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Post By HotGuns
December 15th, 2011 07:18 PM
My sister has found a black powder (muzzle loader) .50 rifle at a local pawn shop and wants to purchase it for her boyfriend. Problem is that she's asked me to purchase it for her while they are out somewhere and hide it in the house so he won't know about it until Christmas.
Since it's a muzzle loader, I don't believe a 4473 form will be required, but could purchasing this rifle for her to give to him be considered a strawman sale?
Opinions welcome, thanks :)
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December 15th, 2011 07:38 PM
If you don't know that he is a prohibited person, and she isn't a prohibited person there is nothing that would make it a straw purchase.
Just remember that shot placement is much more important with what you carry than how big a bang you get with each trigger pull.
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December 15th, 2011 07:57 PM
If it is not a TC Encore or a NEF Huntsman that have interchangeable barrels then you are fine.
A surefire way to know is to go and try to buy it. If they make you start to fill out paperwork then you should stop at that point.
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December 15th, 2011 08:33 PM
Even though it is a muzzleloader, many states classify them as firearms, but thankfully don't require the paperwork. It may or may not be a straw purchase - you should ask your State Police if in doubt.
December 15th, 2011 10:19 PM
You should be good to go as long as Bloomberg and Co. don't get wind of it.
December 15th, 2011 10:26 PM
It is perfectly legal for a legal buyer to give a non prohibited person a firearm as a gift.
Federal Firearms Laws do not apply to muzzleloaders. Its the very reason that they can be bought from a catolgue company like Cabelas or Sportsmans Guide and have them shipped right to your front door.
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December 16th, 2011 05:47 PM
You could always do a bill of sale with your sister if you are worried about it coming back on you.
December 16th, 2011 06:49 PM
Which I've never understood.. I mean, you can kill somebody just as easily with a muzzleloader as any other firearm. They even have handguns that are muzzleloading. So why do they classify them differently?
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December 16th, 2011 07:17 PM
Depends where you live In Illinois all BP firearm sales have to go thru a FFL.
December 16th, 2011 07:51 PM
Just another reason not to live in the Peoples' Republic of Illinois.
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December 17th, 2011 04:37 AM
Originally Posted by ksholder
I hope that Illinois come around soon!
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