This is a discussion on Gun myth? Way back in the 80s, interstate carry illegal. within the General Firearm Discussion forums, part of the Related Topics category; Originally Posted by Hopyard I don't quite have a firm idea of your position. Are you opposed to LEOSA? Opposed to that and also to ...
And, isn't there a pragmatic argument that retired cops might run into some of their "old friends" which justifies this privilege they have?
Of course I would prefer that 822 pass and all may carry interstate, but I hardly see this grant to retired officers and certain active duty officers as an affront to my sense of fair mindedness and fair play.
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Many private citizens living in bad neighborhoods are just as justified in their need to carry. Maybe even more so as they do not go to a homes in a safer area at night. They have to stay with the criminals.And, isn't there a pragmatic argument that retired cops might run into some of their "old friends" which justifies this privilege they have?
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when the intervention of society... may be too late to prevent an injury.
Wow, this has gotten off-track.
To the OP, I have never heard that story, and I grew up in North Carolina and have been a LEO in both Virginia and now North Carolina. I do know that prior to 1995, NC LEOs couldn't legally carry concealed outside their jurisdictions while off-duty. That changed when shall-issue CCW went into effect on Dec. 1, 1995. After that, out-of-state LEOs were not allowed to carry concealed in NC unless they had a permit which NC honored (and that didn't start happening until around the same time as LEOSA anyway). North Carolina does not now, and never has, issued permits to non-residents. Prior to LEOSA even on-duty LEOs from other states were not allowed to carry in NC concealed, though they could carry openly in places that regular citizens could not, provided they were in NC on official business.
If I had to guess, I would say that if there is any truth to the story, the actual arrest(s) were made for illegal CCW, not crossing state lines with firearms.
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