2 pistols, need some info please

2 pistols, need some info please

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    2 pistols, need some info please

    I have 2 pistols that belonged to a friend's late husband. She is wanting to sell them, but I'm no expert on old firearms and their values. The first one is a "Hi Standard Supermatic Citation 22lr" and the other is a "Colt Detective Special .38" I've looked their SN#'s up and determined they are both from the mid 60's.

    The Hi Standard is in great condition for it's age, and functions flawlessly. I took the liberty of running a few mags through it this afternoon. The Colt has some pretty rough signs of pitting and wear, but appears to be in working order. I don't have any .38 ammo to test it.

    Please take a look at the pics. Any info would be greatly appreciated.

    I found similar firearms for sale on various auction sites...
    (Hi Standard $900-$1400 range)
    (Colt's, in better condition of course, ranging from $400-$1000)

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    Sorry, I'm no expert and can't help you out with accurate appraisals.

    But I can say that the Hi Standard looks bad a$$
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    The Colt snubbie is restorable but, it would need a new cylinder, re-timed, and some serious cosmetic frame restoration and then reblued.
    You would need to throw some heavy dollars at it and even then any intrinsic collector value is gone.
    It still could be a decent shooter though but, I would not shoot it in that condition since it could also be quite rusted internally and that cylinder will be very weak in the heavily pitted location.
    When you have pitting that bad on the surface - it's often accompanied by rusting well under the surface.

    In it's present condition. Take whatever you can get for it.

    The Hi Standard w/ the barrel weights - if you find a really interested buyer. $600.00 would be a reasonable asking price.
    Don't take that as gospel. It's a "best guess" on my part.
    More PICS would help and selling it to any serious buyer that wanted it for rimfire competition the bore & barrel chamber would need to be flawless.

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    Don't get live ammo anywhere near that Colt - that cylinder is toast. Looks like corrosion that started out as simple pitting but was left untouched in a bad environment. Might be salvageable, but you'd throw a lot of money after it. For a far more knowledgeable opinion, look up Grant Cunningham (Colt specialist) and send him the pictures for comment. In its current condition, it's a wall hanger and nothing else.

    The High Standard is a completely different story. The Citation was their target line, and the Supermatic was a high-end model with the long barrel and removable weights - often called the "space gun." I can't tell from the photos, but it may even have a muzzle brake. Some also came with some pretty sexy, sculpted target grips if memory serves. Back in the 60s when the gun was made, it competed with the S&W Model 41 and a few Colt target models built on the Woodsman line. The big problem with the High Standards is that they jam a lot, which I recall is due to magazine problems (weak springs?) and replacement mags can be rare and pricey. As a result, resale prices can be depressed since few people buy these as shooters these days. Sounds like this one works just fine, though, which will add to its value.

    Depending on whether you want a bargain or to give the seller a fair market value, I'd say buying it for $400-500 would be bargain range. If the finish is really, really good and you really, really want the gun, I'd offer $750 and see if he bites. Look over on GunBroker.com to get a better idea of market value.
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    I'm not really interested in either of the firearms. She asked me what they were worth, but I had no clue. I told her I would try to find some info on them. She had someone offer her $500 for the Hi Standard. So I'll let her know what everyone says on the forum + let her see a few auctions and let her decide what she wants to do. Thanks for the responses!

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    I'd go over to Gunbroker or Gunsamerica and do a search on those makes and models and get an idea asking prices.

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