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    Gun safe question

    I was at a local safe shop this week looking at new gun safes, the salesman was talking about needing to store your ammo in the gun safe in case of a house fire. Told me about a fire lately that the firemen would not fight because ammo was going off inside the house.

    Anyone have thoughts on this? Any firemen on the forum that can confirm this is an issue?

    I always heard never to store powder in the safe but what about ammo?

    Tim

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    I've been to several fires as both a cop and a firefighter where ammo started cooking off.
    When fighting the fire, we backed out and stayed out. It was just too hazardous.
    When a cop, I had to evacuate the surrounding area.

    Ammo in the safe is safer if the safe is fireproof. It would have to get pretty hot in there to set it off.
    The reason that you dont store gunpowder in a safe is because it cant vent the gases quick enough, so the result would be an explosion. That sure wouldnt be good for either the house or the firefighters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HotGuns View Post
    I've been to several fires as both a cop and a firefighter where ammo started cooking off.
    When fighting the fire, we backed out and stayed out. It was just too hazardous.
    When a cop, I had to evacuate the surrounding area.

    Ammo in the safe is safer if the safe if fireproof. It would have to get pretty hot in there to set it off.
    The reason that you dont store gunpowder in a safe is because it cant vent the gases quick enough, so the result would be an explosion. That sure wouldnt be good for either the house or the firefighters.
    Agree with above quote!

    FIRE RATING should be a key consideration for your Gun Vault/Safe. Don't scrimp. Besides protecting your beloved firearms and ammo, if you 'Go Big Early' with a great fire rating time and temp rating (time it will protect), you will also find that you are putting key documents in there also, and that is worth the cost.Check out the online retailers like Wallsomthing dot com or Cosco dot com or your fav... Delivered to your home (beats slepping a 1050 lb safe from some store........) and if you tip the driver, they will pallet jack it into the house for you (no matter what the website says about curbside delivery).

    Go big early - same if you buy a HD motorcycle.

    Also, a long time ago, as a Volunteer Rural Fireman, we did not enter buildings where ordanace was cooking off!
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    I am looking at the Fatboy Jr from Liberty....45min at 1200 degrees. Plenty of space for what I will need and I was thinking about putting a second small fire safe inside for cash, documents, etc.

    Also does the amount of ammo in the safe matter? I mean they say "do not store powder" but if you have 4000 rounds, thats a lot of powder just not all in one bag.

    Tim

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    Only 4,000? LOL

    That is about a weeks worth of plinking around here when the 'Big Earthquake' happens..... LOL
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    Guess we need a thread on where/how does one store their ammo in their home.

    I will go make one.
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    Also buy a dehumidifier like eva-dry.com to keep guns and ammo dry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TailRunner View Post
    Also buy a dehumidifier like eva-dry.com to keep guns and ammo dry.
    Second that!
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    The best solution is to have a second safe for ammo.
    Keeping it in the same safe with the firearms isn't dangerous, it's just too heavy.
    You don't realize just how heavy until you go to move it. Wow! That box here and there really add up!
    No wonder the shelves were sagging.

    From a scientific angle, the ammo going off in a fire will pop, but not shoot holes in things.
    I'd have a hard time justifying buying a $3000 safe to store $1000 worth of ammo.
    I'd get a lockable container, like the kind sold at Home Depot.
    My home is concrete block, and the fire department is 5 minutes away.
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    +1 on all the advice, go big the first time. we got ours as a home warming gift, its big enough for what we have now but i can see in the future we will need to go from our (20 long gun) to the 39 or 45 long gun safe. We have a steel water gun safe, I would highly recommend them, they have about 12 videos of the owner trying to break into one of the safes and the last attempt is them dropping it from a fork lift about 20 feet in the air and it still did not open. they are all fire rated and very reasonable with price. Im actually thinking of getting the 39 long gun 2 hour fire rating one if a get a buyer for the current safe we have, they have it for under 2 grand right now. Happy hunting.
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    This has nothing to do with the safe, but did anyone see the Myth Busters episode where they tried to "fire" some cartridges by overheating them? Turned out that once the round went off, all it did was explode the case. Not that shrapnel is any better than bullets flying in a straight line or anything...

    I can't find the episode online, but it was neat to watch
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    Yes to lyz... the cases went further than the bullets did... which wasn't very far. Worst it could have done was left a scratch if it hit your bare skin.

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    Only if you have a sweet mustache like Jamie, if you don't your doomed.
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