Call me crazy but I want to bury a gun on some property of mine.....

[Cbuffett556]

Ok I'm not a hard core 'prepper' but I see the merits of burying a firearm and small ammo stockpile just in case either SHTF or we have a "we're from the gub'ment and we're here to help" situation... And by help I mean take my firearms (Katrina) this is more for the latter than the former.

THIS IS NOT A DEBATE OVER WHAT WILL HAPPEN, IF IT WILL HAPPEN, OR WHEN IT WILL HAPPEN. I don't want my thread getting locked because of a flame throwing contest or political debate.

What kind of .22 long rifle would you bury?

How would you store it prior to burial?

My tentative plan is either a keltec su-22 rifle or a polymer stock ruger 10/22 with 2or3 bricks of .22 buried in a piece of PVC pipe (idk if either will fit into a 6" PVC pipe or not)

I plan on covering it with heavy oil and putting a bunch of silica gel packets in with it too.

Thoughts? Comments? Suggestions? Questions?

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[Crowman]

Human burial vault comes to mind...

[Spirit51]

We had a few conversations about this back in the Clinton years. One suggestion was PVC pipe of a size to fit a specific weapon (like long for a rifle) then a strong glue to put caps on with silica packs inside. Bury it along a fence line, but not too close to the house. One person talked of putting one in a stone fence end. A fence end of a circle of chicken wire filled with rocks (this is something people do here). Still using the PVC with caps. The reason they said not to put it too close to a house would be that metal detectors might find it. Buried out under a field fence would be safer. One guy thought about using a GPS and burying it on Federal land....like a park. I don't really know anyone who did it (at least no one told me) but just some late night chat.

I almost forgot. When it was dug up....just saw the end of the PVC off to retrieve it.

[Mr B]

I think its a good idea, but I think something a little bigger than a .22 would be a better choice. Maybe an AK or SKS, or even an AR15 with 500 to 1000 rounds of ammo.

[accessbob]

If it were me, and I realize not everyone would think this way, but if I'm burying something for that purpose, I'd be more inclined to bury an AK47 as those things seem to be able to live on and on and it can be used for hunting and for defense. Just my thought.

[Rock and Glock]

The PVC above is a winner, and you could drench the gun in cosmoline just to make retrieval more fun.

[accessbob]

The PVC above is a winner, and you could drench the gun in cosmoline just to make retrieval more fun.

Hey, so why not just buy a new Mosin and call it good? No prep necessary.

[QKShooter]

You can actually do it without going the PVC pipe route or the heavy grease or Cosmolene.

Buy a few of these...they are very inexpensive.
Gun Sleeve CORTEC VCI-126 Rust Preventative for Storage | eBay

Clean the rifle. Wipe off fingerprints. Insert in one of those bags. Carefully shrink wrap it tight to the firearm with a heat gun.

Insert that open end first into a second bag and shrink wrap that one over the first one.

Then pop that into a LokSak for rifles and bury it.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-Aloksak-12...item336b1243ba

[Eagleks]

I would cosmoline the gun first, and add a small cleaning kit to store with it. A .22 LR would be easy... cleaning rod, cleaning solvent, oil or grease. Then seal it well in plastic with silica packs ... sucking all air I could out of it, and then putting into PVC, or something similar. I'ld consider a handgun to go a long with it. Ammo to me , is another issue.

How you mark / remember so you can relocate where it is, would be a bit important. GPS means you'ld be assuming the satellite system is going to always be functional, and you'ld have a functional GPS, and that you could keep the coordinates without anyone else getting them. I'ld probably recommend the Jesse James or Blackbeard methods.

[Cbuffett556]

I am thinking .22 because I could store over 2k rounds for under $100, total cost will be about $400 with 4bricks of .22, the ruger and pipe.... I'm thinking the .22 because i feel that since I'm burying it I don't want to spend a lot of money on it since I'm just leaving it there

[urkrypt0nite]

Hey, so why not just buy a new Mosin and call it good? No prep necessary.

Wow..true story if I ever heard one. I'd almost consider burying an AK to avoid cleaning that again. That was a fun afternoon.

[msgt/ret]

You can actually do it without going the PVC pipe route or the heavy grease or Cosmolene.

Buy a few of these...they are very inexpensive.
Gun Sleeve CORTEC VCI-126 Rust Preventative for Storage | eBay

Clean the rifle. Wipe off fingerprints. Insert in one of those bags. Carefully shrink wrap it tight to the firearm with a heat gun.

Insert that open end first into a second bag and shrink wrap that one over the first one.

Then pop that into a LokSak for rifles and bury it.

2 Aloksak 12x44 Waterproof Airtight Gun BagPouch LOKSAK | eBay

The shrink wrap is a good idea but I would use something like the Food Saver and vacuum package it along with a couple of desiccant packs then into the PVC pipe. While I was on active duty I was detailed to inspect firearms that had been stored for ten years in a similar manner, all were inspected and found to be corrosion free. Just be sure to pad any sharp areas to prevent piercing the bag.

FoodSaver®

[accessbob]

Wow..true story if I ever heard one. I'd almost consider burying an AK to avoid cleaning that again. That was a fun afternoon.

Yeah, I had fun cleaning mine too. But definitely is a nice shooter. And I have a total of 45 5-round stripper clips (I won 40 on another forum and bought the other 5 at a recent gun show).

[QKShooter]

I am really into effective long term waterproof storage. Just one of several hundred completely bizarre personal interests of mine.

A few years ago I was sold on the PVC pipe method and it IS still as effective today as it was then.

There are some more modern ways of accomplishing the same task these days and they can accomodate things that would not really fit into a length of PVC.

One FANTASTIC product is the SILICONE SELF FUSING TAPE.

Your hands need to be clean when you use it. Wash them first a few times to eliminate skin oils.

Carefully tape the object by pulling and stretching and overlapping the tape upon itself. Completely cover the object. Don't miss any spots.

After 24 hours the tape fuses to itself. It does not just "stick" to itself....it morphs into itself. It really does!

Your tape covering actually becomes a one piece waterproof skin that does not stick to the object and yet is easily removed.

I actually took a portable radio and wrapped it in silicone self fusing tape. I waited a full day and then put it into a bucket of water weighted down with a brick for a week and when I removed the tape the radio was bone dry and it worked perfectly.

The tape I used was 3M Brand but, there is other stuff out there by other manufacturers. So I can only vouch for the 3M Brand since that is the one I actually tested first hand.

I have not as yet done a long term on the Silicone tape but you would be doubly safe popping it into aloksak just to be 100% certain that your object will stay dry.

[MisterAvis]

I won't lend to the discussion of logistics. I will only say.... you are not crazy. You are quite sane.