Oh and I thought the analogy was you can stuff more powder in it, but it is still a 38 Special.
I guess it went over your big green head. The analogy of the car with the big engine was a tongue in cheek comparison to a 357 in a snub j frame.
If you say you are getting 1600 fps from a 357, in a snub, or even a 4 inch, with factory loads, I'm thinking you are exposed to too high of an elevation.
Ok, my bad, only 1476 fps.
If you stick with industry standard loads the 357 mag has more energy (velocity) and a better sectional density. Out of a snub nose revolver in 44 special even BB loads are about 1100 FPS, that is quite a load and I would be very happy with that as a carry load. I guess we could call that a wash.
How does a 357 eclipse a big bore revolver? Are you speaking strictly of velocities? I would be very interested in knowing what brings you to that conclusion.
My Grandfather was a cop in Milwaukee, WI during those times (1920's-1930's) and he carried a 45 Colt and a 30-06 (for getting into cars). At that time the 45 Colt WAS king of the hill.
And, as to your statement about using the cartridge to kill mobsters in cars, you are only telling half the story. Hint; what did Frank Hamer have on him during the B&Clyde ambush?
Sure, faster projectiles penetrated better due to speed.
This statement means what? You are all giddy stating that the 158 grain LSWC 38 Special is a powerhouse, but I counter with no, but the same bullet at loaded as a magnum is and you try to defend you point beyond all silliness. You allude that you have the experience and I, or anyone who disagrees with you are the neophyte.
But experienced people know there is way more to it than speed.
It is, and not really. Why not the same standard you put on the 38 Special?
The 357 is a great cartridge, properly loaded. But you will pay big money, for those who produce anything resembling the real deal.
You are defending your position beyond all rational thought. Anything a 38 Special can do a 357 Magnum can do it better. I really like how you and 336A throw in other calibers to try and disparage the 357 Magnum. The beauty of a 357 mag revolver is I can shoot powder puff 38 loads all day and then load some barn burners, it is tremendously more adaptable.
But it's a fact, anything that needs doing, from mild to wild, can be done with a 38spl.
The limiting factor is the knowledge of the user.