Problems with correct type of lubricant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dontrun View Post
    I completely disassemble it and clean with hopps after ever time shooting. I have put about 500 rounds down range with it and every time it gets past 50 rounds it starts. Normally i just start dumping in oil to keep it running, but I know there is a problem. I have put 500 rounds threw my usp in one sitting with no problem.

    I guess I will start looking for a spring kit, and go by the gun shop Mon. and find some grease.
    Thanks to everyone who has given advice.
    Hmmm....This is an odd case. I'm not sure I would spend the money on springs. Hypothetically let's assume the springs are worn. So the gun works fine for 50 or so rounds, and then starts acting up. The only thing then that I can figure - assuming it's the springs - is that 50 rounds is causing enough carbon buildup to affect the resistance against the springs, and personally I don't think that would be the case. I think springs are either worn or they aren't, but then again, I'm not sure what else could account for this odd gun behavior. If possible I would just send it in to Sig (as long as the warranty covers it) before you spend a bunch of money that may or may not fix it.
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    I have been looking at spring kits and have decided to order the individual springs since i don't think the grip screws and washers are worn or the decocker spring. While looking at stuff and other forums I read polishing feed ramp may help, so what the hell took it apart put it in the vice with the dremel and some white rouge. Now its a mirror finish. Have not tried it out though. Will be about 2 weeks before can take it out for test run. Hope can get new springs in by then too.

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    I don't know why the picture didn't work of my 1st feed ramp polish. sorry

    I am thinking I am only going to replace the magazine spring and the recoil spring. Its only about 20 bucks for those 2, and no hassle of sending to Sig. Does anyone think I should replace anything else before I order those 2 springs? Thanks

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    Those are the most likely suspects... let us know if they make a difference.
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    I am going to order the springs tomorrow, and looking at ultramax ammo (read some good reviews) any advice on that brand. Hope the KISS method works.
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    You need to use grease on all slides! Oil does not work, it dries up way to fast.

    Someone else also posted to use greese.

    You can use Gun Butter or wheel bearing grease.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RockinGlock View Post
    You need to use grease on all slides! Oil does not work, it dries up way to fast.
    I personally disagree with that statement. There may be select instances where grease is beneficial, but if your standard firearm - in good repair - won't work with some good ol' CLP or Slip2000EWL exc exc then I would say something is amiss.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IAm_Not_Lost View Post
    I personally disagree with that statement. There may be select instances where grease is beneficial, but if your standard firearm - in good repair - won't work with some good ol' CLP or Slip2000EWL exc exc then I would say something is amiss.
    You ever try Frog Lube?

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    Quote Originally Posted by IAm_Not_Lost View Post
    I personally disagree with that statement. There may be select instances where grease is beneficial, but if your standard firearm - in good repair - won't work with some good ol' CLP or Slip2000EWL exc exc then I would say something is amiss.
    Grease stays put, oil on the other hand weeps, seeps, evaporates and burns off outside a captured environment. Grease is a better choice of lube for the rails and sliding surfaces of an auto pistol.
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    Try Militec-1 oil & grease.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sgb View Post
    Grease stays put, oil on the other hand weeps, seeps, evaporates and burns off outside a captured environment. Grease is a better choice of lube for the rails and sliding surfaces of an auto pistol.
    Sigh. My main point was that oil works fine, to say that "it does not work" was my main point of contention. If I misspoke, my apologies, but in my experience oil of the proper viscosity has never failed me, but I have observed grease to work well too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IAm_Not_Lost View Post
    Sigh. My main point was that oil works fine, to say that "it does not work" was my main point of contention. If I misspoke, my apologies, but in my experience oil of the proper viscosity has never failed me, but I have observed grease to work well too.
    "sigh" .......... never said oil wouldn't work .......... said grease is a better choice for the application. "sigh"
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    Do most firearms need lubrication for them to function? I ask because when I was a kid we would have problems when out in sub freezing weather with some of our rifles acting up. The older folks told us to remove all the lubricants in the action and run them dry. Point is they ran fine dry. That tells me that firearms do not need lube to function properly as much as they need to to prevent wear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mlr1m View Post
    Do most firearms need lubrication for them to function? I ask because when I was a kid we would have problems when out in sub freezing weather with some of our rifles acting up. The older folks told us to remove all the lubricants in the action and run them dry. Point is they ran fine dry. That tells me that firearms do not need lube to function properly as much as they need to to prevent wear.

    Michael
    ......... your car will run without oil in the engine, try that and see how long the engine lasts.
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