Americans With Guns At Border Use 'Cultural Difference' Defence.

Americans With Guns At Border Use 'Cultural Difference' Defence.

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    Americans With Guns At Border Use 'Cultural Difference' Defence.

    Found this item on a news website today. It's tourist season and that always leads to a lot of your countrymen spending some time in our jails if they don't declare a firearm when coming North into Canada.

    No Canada bashing or flame throwing please. Our laws are our laws. We have to live with them so you do too, if you choose to visit us.

    Americans with guns at border use 'cultural difference' defence - Windsor - CBC News
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    Agreed! As I understand it, there's sometimes an option to "check" weapons with customs at the border and pick them up on the way home.
    Whatever the situation, you're correct... .CA laws are to be respected by any visitors, lest they pay the prescribed price.

    BTW: I read only a few of the reader comments to that news article and it seems the first responder (crighton) has never actually read the text of the 2A.
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    Even if they are given a reduced sentence for the gun,they should be charged with "Felony Ignorant" or "Felony Stupid" for simply not knowing they were entering another nation and should have checked that nation's laws.

    (Yank who lived in Canada for a while and has looked into Canadian rules to see if there is an easy and legal way to import guns). (When visiting relatives in AB)
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    I have often wondered if citizens of other countries are as arrogant as many Americans are in thinking that when they travel they take their own countries laws with them. Our own Government propagates this thinking all the time when we demand other countries change their laws to suit us. Do other countries do this too?

    On this note. Even notice that when an American is convicted of a drug crime in another country and is sentenced to being whipped our Government and media both protest it as being barbaric?
    That same citizen is convicted of a weapons related crime and sentenced to the same punishment in that same country and you hear crickets chirping.

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    These are the same people who would try carrying a gun in NYC or DC and then cry, "But I have a carry permit from my home state". I have no sympathy for them. If they are too ignorant or lazy to use the computer to research the laws and requirement of where they are traveling to, they deserve what happens to them.
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    I am only 100 or so miles from the BC border and it sis a great place to visit. Bear spray is about the only thing that you can bring over. Even big knives can be an issue


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    We've traveled extensively in Canada... drove the TCH pretty much from end-to-end, visit NB regularly. Funny, but I've never felt the need to bring a gun with me when we go there, yet within US borders I carry everywhere that's legal for me to do so. go figure.
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    The only time it's ever come close to being an issue was when I was at one of Canada's northwestern border crossings. The dude just would not or could not believe I didn't have a gun in the vehicle as he asked mulitple times. To his credit, he didn't dismantle my vehicle (perhaps because it was early April on the AK border), and he wasn't rude. He got tired of asking the same question and getting the same answer, so he let me go. When I went to Niagara Falls, the border guards didn't even ask (probably because anti-gun NY is on the US side).
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    Quote Originally Posted by archer51 View Post
    These are the same people who would try carrying a gun in NYC or DC and then cry, "But I have a carry permit from my home state". I have no sympathy for them. If they are too ignorant or lazy to use the computer to research the laws and requirement of where they are traveling to, they deserve what happens to them.
    Absolutely right on!!!!
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    Like Happypuppy, I live about two hours from the Vancouver BC area. We used to drive up there for the day and sometimes take the loop down to Victoria and then grab the ferry back to the States. I always wonder about folks who 'forget' their gun or try to sneak one past the border.

    What part of, 'You're a guest in another country' did they not understand? Canadians are nice folks, in general, with their own sovereign laws. I don't even bother trying to find a way around them. I just take a good sturdy cane or stick along. No issues, nice friendly time!
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    "Cultural difference" is the best defense? I wonder how far you can push that:

    Texan arrested for beating his wife while on vacation in Montreal: "But the Cowboys just lost the Packers! In Texas we beat our wives after our football team loses. It's cultural difference!"

    Surfer dude caught with special brownies: "Chill, dude! We eat these righteous brownies all the time in Santa Barbara. It's cultural difference!"

    It seems like common sense to assume other countries won't let you carry firearms unless shown otherwise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mb1900 View Post
    "Cultural difference" is the best defense? I wonder how far you can push that:

    Texan arrested for beating his wife while on vacation in Montreal: "But the Cowboys just lost the Packers! In Texas we beat our wives after our football team loses. It's cultural difference!"

    Surfer dude caught with special brownies: "Chill, dude! We eat these righteous brownies all the time in Santa Barbara. It's cultural difference!"

    It seems like common sense to assume other countries won't let you carry firearms unless shown otherwise.
    Been a whole lotta beatings going on down there the last few years huh.

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    Based on the photo of the confiscated weapons, I'm going to hazard a guess that the offenders are a pretty clueless lot. I see only two modern military-type semiautomatics (and one is a 65 year-old M1 carbine!), lots of pump shotguns, and among the handguns, the majority are revolvers. And two of the 14 autoloading pistols shown are 100 year old Lugers!

    My takeaway from this is that people who have a real-time understanding of weapons also have a real-time understanding of what the laws are where they're headed. On behalf of the thinking population of the US, I apologize for so many American doofuses headed your way.
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    I respect Canada's laws, just as I respect the laws of Illinois, NYC, etc. However, until these places are willing and able to guarantee my security I won't be visiting.
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