Negligent Discharges you've been around for

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    Negligent Discharges you've been around for

    Sorry if there's a thread about this already, but I don't know the technical term for it, so I couldn't search for one.

    A few weeks ago I asked my friend to show me one of his grandparents' guns, thinking that at the age of 23 he knew better than to pull the trigger after not checking the gun. Nope. First thing he does when he grabs the shotgun is cock it, I ask "Is it loaded?" He says no. So I step back, not thinking that I actually have to tell him not to pull the $#%@ trigger. Well.... for some reason, he decided to hold it to his side, away from me thankfully, and pull the trigger. BOOM. Hole in his grandma's bedroom wall. Thankfully, that was it. It was a slug, only went into one side of the wall (weird angle).

    My ears hurt for ~2 hours after it happened. The whole time I was thinking about how it could have ended up 10000000x worse. I would have laid into him, but it was pretty apparent that he realized what a stupid thing he did.

    Anybody else have some stories and lessons learned? I really hope they don't end up worse than a hole in the wall.

    lesson learned: never asking to see anybody's guns again unless I know that they've had a LOT of exposure to firearms. a lot.
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    What you describe is not an "accidental fire" but rather a negligent discharge!

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    OP on your other thread i just posted a story that happened to me due to a mechanical misfunction. Two types of discharges that are non-intentional. ND *negligent discharge* and AD *accidental discharge*

    The difference between the two is simple. ND means you could have prevented it but were too stupid to, AD is what happens when circumstances such as mechanical malfunctions cause the weapon to discharge without your consent.
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    ahhhhh... the more you know. gonna search some negligent discharge stories now

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    Check out youtube. Many videos of people accidentally shooting themselves in the feet, hands , legs............also a video of some idiot police cadet, who decided it would be a good idea to test out his bullet proof vest while him and his buddies were drinking. Put the vest on his friend, and shot......except he missed the vest , shot his friend in the lung and almost killed him.

    Negligence is when you know somethings stupid and you do it anyway, or are to hairbrained to realize its gonna cause issues.

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    OK I am going to confess, I had a ND about thirty years ago. Heres the story. I work a second shift job.(4 to 12 midnight) I was living alone at the time and I used to like staying up late to watch movies on my new VCR.(VCR? Anybody know what that is?) I was bored with the movie I had in so I decided to do a little dry fire with my 357. I unloaded the gun and played with it while the movie ran. After it was over I was waiting for it to rewind before I went to bed.(rewind? Remember those days?) As I sat in my chair I guess I wanted to fire the gun one more time but to tell the truth I do not remember doing it or remember reloading the gun, I must have been half asleep at the time. the next thing I knew there was a loud bang and hole appeared in the case of my TV. I learned a lesson that night that I will never forget. I never handle my guns when I am tired and I never dry fire with the ammo in the same room. I thank God that the only thing hurt was my TV and my pride. When my girl friend asked why I had to buy a new TV I just told her the old one was shot. She never knew the truth. I married her and 25 years later she still dose not know this story.
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    My uncle and I were about to go shooting one day with a few new-to-us friends and while we were still in the house one of them picked up my uncles EDC gun - which he had set down in it's holster on the table - and pulled the trigger. No one was injured, but his house suffered from a total of 6 new holes, i.e. three inner walls and a chip in the concrete block of the outer wall. Needless to say that range trip was cancelled and the new-to-us friend became a new-to-us drywall worker.
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    Bi-monthly gun show in our area. Rules are you can carry in the show but all weapons are zip tied through the barrels. A customer asks the vendor for a certain type gun, the vendor carries that weapon and forgot that he just recently showed how easy it was to load and unload the magazine and left a round in the chamber. Fortunately, the customer pointed the weapon to the ceiling and pulled the trigger. Over 1,000 people in the center stopped, not a peep... The vendor had his license revoked (Washington Arms Collectors run a serious show and you can not buy any guns without membership and regulations concerning). The vendor was escorted out with all his stuff within 20-25 mins and the customer was told to leave as well and lost his ability to purchase at shows as well. Neither person checked the weapon and the vendors gun was not zip tied...
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    Was on a private range with a buddy. He wants me to test fire his el cheapo auto ordnance 1911 with his reloads. He's somewhat insulted when I refused to try his reloads in my 1911. Rule I have nobodys reloads in my firearms period. Anyway I could tell his powder charges were inconsistent due to varied muzzle blast on each round. I should have listened to my little voice inside me. But wanted to finish the magazine. Second from last round slam fired due to my best guess that primer was not fully seated. Glad I was wearing shooting glasses. Brass from cartridge base lodged deep in my nose. Bled like a stuck pig. Magazine was blown out of mag well, slide release came partially out. I told him he should give up reloading cuz he was impatient and did not follow reloading manual. No attention to detail. Anyway, I had one a heck of a bad flinch for awhile...
    Saw numerous negligent discharges on active duty, all due to being unfamiliar with weapon. A Marine gate guard was killed by one of those idiots playing "quick draw"...
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    I had a mechanical failure (sear) on my Ruger MKIII that would be classified as an AD, but no NDs. Because I was following the 4 Rules I did not harm anything other than the dirt at the range.
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    What are you talking about?,We are all Tier 1 guy's here!
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    It's Murphy's law. What can go wrong will go wrong. There's no stopping it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sig35seven View Post
    It's Murphy's law. What can go wrong will go wrong. There's no stopping it.
    Wait...I thought the NRA had lobbyist's that were "in" with Murphy's people...what am I paying the NRA for anyways then!!??
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    Quote Originally Posted by glockrocker View Post
    What are you talking about?,We are all Tier 1 guy's here!

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    The term is negligent discharge. seen to many of them over the years. All have this in common .
    Failure to treat all weapons as if they are loaded, and clear it in the proper manner.

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