This is a discussion on What is reasonable gun control... within the General Firearm Discussion forums, part of the Related Topics category; Originally Posted by Sarisataka I posted this on a political forum where I hang out. It is definitely more anti than pro. It of course ...
NCIS at point-of-sale for licensed dealers only. Private sellers not required to perform background check (they can't use NCIS anyway). Seller required to give a free trigger lock at the buyer's request. No other requirements. No limit on characteristics of the weapon. No limit on number of weapons perchised. No limit on amount of ammunition perchised. Civilians not allowed to buy, sell or posses tracer/incendiary or armor piercing ammunition. No waiting periods. No special taxes on weapons or ammo or other items, services or any kind of property or asset related to selling firearms in any way what-so-ever. No CCW, permit or other certification needed to buy or carry, concealed or open, loaded or unloaded, any hand gun or rifle. Registration is illegal. Allowed to carry concealed onto all school campuses of every kind, to include elementary and post secondary schools. Allowed to carry onto collage campuses. Private businesses subject to Public Accommodation law (that means this rule wouldn't apply to factories, etc) that wish to ban firearms from their premises must demonstrate a 'need' and show what alternate armed security will be provided on the premises, in their application for an annually renewed 'public hazard' permit.
Mandatory gun safety class, to include range time and qualification, as a federal requirement in all highschool curriculum.
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Mar1m, you would get along just fine with all my family and friends lol!
Anglico, really??? Can u please post a link or somethin? Sounds like some good reading!
As far as these fees, I feel like all they would do is raise local taxes even more, the government sure as heck isn't going to take it out of their pocket. And then I would never trust it was being used properly.
I do not fee like I should have to pay my government or have restrictions on how I choose to protect myself or my family. Granted I'm not saying I should be allowed to own WOMD. I understand technology has come a very long way since our founding fathers. However I don't feel like our guns should be limited. We have the right to defend ourselves from our government if they ever try to use force to take us over per say. When the constitution was written they didn't say that only military could own a high caliber flint lock weapon while a normal citizen had to own a smaller on. Just saying.
I feel like the people that did so much to fight for our freedom would not like where we are at today. I mean think about it, restrictions on guns, the freedom of speech that we supposedly still have, dang we have to pay just to hunt and fish, and even after we pay, they tell us when we can hunt and what we are allowed to hunt with. It's ridiculous.
Sorry I went on my little rave, iv been thinking a lot about all this and so much more that I won't post, don't wanna bore or offend anyone.
Reasonable?What is reasonable gun control...
- Doing what's possible to keep felons from committing crime; ensuring violent felons are incapable of doing it a second time.
- Enabling citizens to do what's possible to keep felons from committing crime.
- Disallowing governing hacks from fouling citizens' ability to defend themselves against crime, and heavily penalizing them criminally for doing so.
The only way I see that happening is to ensure that heavily-armed citizens vastly outnumber criminals, and that the legal machinery is codified to support, protect and defend the citizens' right to self-defense, the defense of others and their property.
We've allowed creation of this vast machine of government prying and fiddling that simply ensures it's tougher for citizens to stop crime. Added registration, regulation, monitoring and criminalization beyond criminal actions committed by criminals is targeting of people other than criminals.
In the days of the old west, anyone could own anything. What then stopped the "Thugs" from taking over?
The fact that the Law Man could call a posse of armed citizens who could own anything and hunt them down.
What keeps the criminals from just running wild now, as some have begun to do? They can get just about anything across the border they want. So, why should a law abiding citizen not have that same right?
You want to control the people with what YOU think is allowable, and that is quite clear.
Stop Trolling and star realizing that criminals will not follow your laws, and stripping law abiding citizens of their ability to protect themselves will not stop crime.
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Reasonable gun control = hitting your intended target.
Gun control is inherently unreasonable.
It simply cannot control or deter the criminal mind.
It is quite simply a means for people in power to gain more control over the populace. Using the adjective 'reasonable' is a buzz-word lie for the unlearned.
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Easy answer: Any gun over which I personally have control. So much for a glib answer. Seriously tho; I wonder if the current weapons available to the military were around at the time of the 2nd amendment would it have been worded differently. I'm not sure, but I don't think so. The basic premise of the 2nd amendment was to keep our military in check by maintaining an armed public. Given that why would you say we the public can have sling shots and the military can have full auto AR's? Sort of defeats the purpose of the 2nd amendment me thinks.
I carry to protect myself and my loved ones from the BG's. Not to solve societies problems. That said: if more carried the deterrent would only have a positive overall effect on those problems.
This is the 2nd thread that is a proponent of some sort of "reasonable" gun control posted on this forum. Do you guys understand that this thread is internet searchable? Do you understand anti's now have words on a major firearms forum continaining "reasonable gun control" described in a favorable tone? My feelings on even seeing this thread here would probably earn more points so I'll keep them to myself but for gods sake stop.
It's truly nice to see that people share the same views as myself and the people I choose to associate with! It's very refreshing!!!!
Like many have already said, restrictions only restrict the law abiding citizens. I'm not going to get into details, but through certain people I know that know other people, etc...I have been asked if I wanted to purchase a freaking 6 round grenade launcher(military issued) and a bunch of fully auto machine guns. And for dirt cheap. I didn't buy them of course, simply because its not worth the risk to me. But it just shows how easy people can get ahold of them. If the criminals can get them why shouldn't we have the right to purchase them legally to defend ourselves from the illegal ones?
Gun control or rather controlling who may have firearms should be restricted to good guys - yes, bad guys - no. The way most gun laws are written the only people who are restricted are good guys. Follow the law & you have to jump through hoops. Be a law breaker & you can purchase or rent a firearm of any kind on the street corner along with your 8 ball of dope. When's the last time you heard "I'm waiting for my CCW to come through so I can rob that liquor store"?
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The president wants some way to reduce gun violence, I say we make sure everybody has a gun and knows how to use it.
Yoda, I am, yes.