Past and current Kahr compact gun owners, chime in :)
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I had a P380, and it was a horrible gun. unreliable pistol that after 500 rounds could not go through ...
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August 1st, 2012 01:40 AM
Past and current Kahr compact gun owners, chime in :)
Well, I'll make this short...
I had a P380, and it was a horrible gun. unreliable pistol that after 500 rounds could not go through a box of ammo.
Needless to say, I sold it and let them figure it out with warranty work etc.
I'm looking to possibly change my PF9 to another pistol and been looking at P938 and Kahr CM9. P938 as much as I like is little too much money right now. I could make it happen, and I will if I must, but I started thinking about the CM9 again.
problem is, to me (and other posts I've seen of Kahr in general) is that it's like a Taurus... you either get great reliable gun and end up very happy (I do remember very good finish on the P380) or you get a lemon and will have many problems with it. This really ends up putting it on par with Taurus to me.
I'm very afraid of trying Kahr again, but something in my guy tells me to go with it and give it one more chance. I even bought 200 rounds of 9mm today just incase I buy it, so I can break it in lol...
that being said, there is another feeling in my gut that says to go ahead and get the P938.
there is one last gut that says just keep the PF9!!!
FWIW, my PF9 has been dead reliable and I am ready (and have been) trust my life to it. FWIW, I had my C5L laser/light on the PF9, and it was a perfect fit. like they were meant to be.
what do I do!?!?
August 1st, 2012 12:08 PM
I have both the PF-9 and CM9 and CW9. I carry the PF-9 in my right front pocket 24/7, and mine have all been reliable and accurate. Not as pretty as the CM9, but they work if you do your part.
I personally don't think you can have too many carry guns, so I would just add one of the Kahr 9mm's as an alternate carry weapon. They are sweet shooters with less felt recoil than the PF-9.
Since you have one, you know its a handful. After the break in period, my Kahrs have all been perfect....not a lot to dislike about a gun that is accurate and goes bang when it should.
BTW, if you sell your PF-9, you won't get much for it, so I'd keep it as I said before.
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August 1st, 2012 12:20 PM
I've been carrying a CW-45 for 2 years and all the while never had any trouble when shooting it. Even durring the break-in period. Seems to be just hit or miss for people and Kahrs. I'd personally go with the CM-9 in your spot. I love my CW!
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August 1st, 2012 12:38 PM
mine has a titanium color gunkote and the northwood trigger, so I dunno, i'm sure it'll find a owner for a decent price
Originally Posted by zonker1986
how come you don't carry the CM9 24/7? (i carry the pf9 same way you do. it's in my pocket in a remora holster as we speak)
August 1st, 2012 12:39 PM
Indeed... that's why I compared to a taurus lol. i'm just afraid I might waste 400 bucks on one and have a lemon again. seems like a 3-1 ratio
Originally Posted by PARADIGM 45
August 1st, 2012 12:44 PM
I'm seriously considering selling my PM9, simply because the gun is too small and too light for me -- I struggle to shoot it straight when I'm trying to shoot quickly, as I might do in a defensive situation. When I focus and take my time and squeeze just so, the gun is as accurate as any I have.
I have about 1200 rounds through it of various junk, including Remington UMJ, Federal, and up to Remington Golden Sabres, and the gun has never one time failed to fire, failed to eject, failed to do anything except exactly what it is supposed to do.
I have plans to get to the range within the next week or so and test the little bugger again, but if I can't keep three quick shots in COM, then I may have to face the reality that it's just not the carry gun for me.
I'm in favor of gun control -- I think every citizen should have control of a gun.
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August 1st, 2012 12:45 PM
What are you looking to gain over the PF9 with the CM9 (or other)?
The reason I ask, is that I previously had a PF9 when I picked up a PM9 on a whim. I can appreciate the better quality and workmanship in the PM9, as well as it being more resistant to rust. But the PF9 shoots just a well (though the PM9's trigger pull is smoother).
As it stands, the PM9 gets carried on the rare occasion that justifies a single-stack 9mm and the PF9 stays in the safe these days. I haven't seen anything come up in the market since then that would inspire me to replace it. However, if I were starting over, I'd probably give the Beretta Nano a really hard look.
'Clinging to my guns and religion
August 1st, 2012 01:48 PM
I had both the PF-9 and CW9, didnt care for the triggers on either one
August 1st, 2012 04:44 PM
I will not tell you what is better for you. I carried a pf-9 for 2 1/2 years. Shot everthing I tried in it and had no issues other than recoil. Then was offered a cw kahr that the owner hated for a price that I could not turn down. After finding it so easy to shoot and for me relieable I bought a new cm9. After it broke in with zero issues just like the pf-9 I desided to change cc guns and never looked back. It is far smoother and easier to shoot than the pf-9 and a bit smaller but a couple oz heavier. That alone might be all thats need to change how it feels in the hand.
Hard to compare priceing when the KT can be bought for 250 and the kahr is 375 to 400. Now I also have a taurus tcp 380 for time when smaller pistol is needed and it to seems to be a great little pistol.
Trigger whiners, I guess I will never understand . Any trigger pull type can be learned and become good with it. Just takes an open mind and practice.
Trigger pull on the kahr is better than the KT and feels like any well tuned DA trigger except better still. Smooth no stack 6lb trigger pull. I shoot many different trigger types and firearm types and just don't see the issue but I grew up that why. Lots of trigger time behind many different firearms. Only takes me a couple rounds fired to be back in tune with my cc pistol after shooting a 2lb SA pistol trigger.
August 1st, 2012 08:11 PM
First time problem shame on them, second time around: shame on you! I personally will never give Kahr another chance.
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August 1st, 2012 08:53 PM
The Glock has a better track record than Kahr, based on my readings. If you're a gambling man, go with the Kahr again. Personally, I'd go with one that can actually handle your typical chambering action of pulling the slide back and releasing, rather than needing to hit the slide release for fear of failure. However, it's not my money, it's yours, so do what you think is right and whatever you get, make sure it's reliable before you consider it a viable SD weapon.
August 1st, 2012 11:43 PM
My first generation PM9 is a decade old. Ten years of
my abuse and it's fine. In fact, I suppose it's time for
August 1st, 2012 11:50 PM
I love my CW9 but you do have to break them in properly.
August 2nd, 2012 12:35 AM
I'm not a huge believer in the break in thing...
Originally Posted by pir8fan
this isn't a car ya know. you don't pull over on the side of the road and fix the problem. if this thing goes down because you didn't 'break it in' properly, your ass might be dead.
would you buy a plane that required 200 hours of break in with no guarantees that it might not be fully 100% after that, because some take 500 hours to break in? LOL
August 2nd, 2012 12:50 AM
I can't speak of all Kahrs as I have only owned one; the PM9 I've had for about a year. It has fired everything I have put through it and never failed a single time. I also have no trouble in shooting it accurately fairly quick, though I think the finger extensions on it make that easier. Until this thread I've never read anything bad about a Kahr and the people I've known that have them are just as happy as I am. I also don't like break-in periods. It should work from the get-go. Never have understood why guns need break-in periods or rounds. The ones that I have had that suggested break-in periods that malfunctioned during the break-in period continued to do so after the so called break-in period.
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