Be careful, you probably do not want a new best friend, even if your intentions are good. Here's hoping you get your own place soon.
Then there are the text messages that have been swirling around... especially the strange rants from the drunk guy's ex-boyfriend (which were shared by the homeowner with me, when she was trying to contact the tenant). (Personally, I don't give a hoot what hole this guy plugs so long as I don't have to hear it or see it... that's totally his deal). I can't even begin to describe them because even with context they are difficult to decipher.
So, yeah, there is more to the story.
As I've mentioned already, I have been the disturbing drunk, and I have dealt with another neighbor who was a disturbing drunk. This guy, however, is different. Can't put it to words, but he's the kind of guy that raises your SA when you see him.
And, again, I'm not looking to take away his rights. I'm looking to make sure the intel gets into the proper hands, if for no other reason to begin to establish a paper trail so that if this guy disappears from my life but pops up somewhere else doing the same behaviors, or worse, there is something to establish a pattern. Patterns matter. Intel matters.
I know folks that have had bouts of depression, PTSD, alcholism. And ya know what...sometimes they work out for themselves. Like others have said:the authorities already know. Let them deal with it. SOme of the folks I know fixed the problem themselves. If it was reported they would:
a) Have en extremely hard time finding a job since almost everyone does background checks
b) will take forever to be able to purchase a firearm
Have you talked to this man?
I just learned that the most un-neighborly neighbor has returned home and apparently picked up right where he left off. Another neighbor (and long-time friend) has called the police. We'll see where this goes now.
Lesson: Trust your instincts, and act on them.
I wish I could have put to words the myriad reasons why this guy brought me into orange. It could have saved a lot of frustrating back and forth. I'll update this thread when I learn more.
An alcoholic can by a car. It is only when his liscense is suspended or revoked by the state for DUI or other infractions that he can not legally drive. It still does not mean he can not own a car.
If a person is not arrested and convicted of a felony he can purchase firearms. In some places he might not get a CCP but he still has not lost his 2A rights.
The authorities know what is going on. All you should do is report any incidents that would warrant LEO response.
Archer51 and Suntzu,
"Section 922(g) of the Gun Control Act prohibits certain persons from shipping or transporting any firearm in interstate or foreign commerce, or receiving any firearm which has been shipped or transported in interstate or foreign commerce, or possessing any firearm in or affecting commerce. These prohibitions apply to any person who:
18, U.S.C. §922 (g) (3)
Is an unlawful user of or addicted to any controlled substance
Seems pretty clear to me. Maybe I'm missing something, but all that it looks like that needs to be established is that said neighbor is an unlawful user or addicted.
I don't know if he owns or wants to own a firearm. I do know that I would *definitely* not feel safe if he was anywhere near one, though. In such a case, all that might be between my kid's head and a bullet is a thin floor and a piece of wallboard.
Frankly, I think there are some folks here who are protecting the wrong guy. And I don't buy the whole slippery slope argument.
You're right. It does need to be established that he is addicted of a controlled substance. It is up to the COURT to decide whether or not he an addict of controled substance. If he has a prescription, then it is hard to prove that he is addicted. Some people have life long chronic pain so must take pain meds for the rest of their life. My wife has had her lower spine fused, and must take 6 vicodin a day to manage the pain, and will probably be taking them for the rest of her life. She daily carries a ruger P95DC. Is she addicted? Depends on your pov.
If he has some heavy meds that he should not have, the police can charge him of unlawful possesion of controlled substance.
Whether or not I've tried and convicted him in my mind matters not. What matters is whether the appropriate authorities think that he should not be allowed to purchase or possess a firearm as a consequence of his addiction, etc.
I can't take any of his rights away. But it is my responsibility to alert the authorities to my concerns so that they can make this decision.
As for whether he has the 'capability' of doing something... I beg to differ. IF he handles a loaded firearm, he most definitely has the capability of making a mistake. Not every bullet that kills left the chamber as a result of malicious intent.
Accidents happen, and when you have a severe addiction, the probability of them happening increases exponentially.
Not every person that is not allowed to purchase/possess a firearm has had that right taken away for fear that they may maliciously deploy the weapon.
That said, I would not put this past the guy, even though he may be a fine upstanding man when sober. Drunks do stupid things like start fights and wave guns around. Or, as was the case in Texas, drunks can also attempt stupid things, like tackling an armed man.
I'm not going after the 2a. I'm justifiably concerned about safety. Anyone who can't see that must be blinded by something.
Things like having someone committed can *ruin their lives*.
The matter would be entirely different if the guy got drunk and went around *threatening* to do harm to someone. That's a crime... and that's something you'd be justifiably concerned about. Then you could get a restraining order, or any number of other actions. IF a crime had been being committed that would prevent him from owning a weapon, the police would have dealt with it. That's their job.
If the system worked any other way, all anyone would have to do is report you or I as "going through a rough time right now" and boom, no more guns for you. Even if you're stone cold sober.
As for him bleeding into yours? Well, you did what you can do. You reported it, and you had the police come out, and they dealt with it, and now he's being evicted. Life is messy sometimes. Wait out your 90 days. Be vigilant of his behavior... as you should always be anyway.
If you actually want to help the situation, maybe the better question would have been:
"Are there any crisis counseling services that I can refer this guy to that can help him get through his issues without further injuring himself or others?"
It's funny, among all the chatter about the Aurora shooting... there's so much noise about our "gun problem" and so little noise about our "mental illness problem".
It's a tough spot. Sitting in one's home and drinking themself into oblivion is not illegal. The only crime he actually committed here is disturbing the peace due to the loudness in which he did his stuff. Unless he has been convicted of a felony (illegal to own guns as a felon), you're going to have a very difficult time getting him committed or determined to be mentally defective. While I understand your concern, and have been in similar situations in the past, your ability to have his rights curtailed is doubtful. The only control you really have is in where you choose to live.