This is a discussion on All over in less the 12 seconds-thinking of carrying un-chambered? within the General Firearm Discussion forums, part of the Related Topics category; Originally Posted by bmglock23 I can rack in 0.3 seconds, so yeah. My odds of an AD would be much greater than my odds of ...
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I'll again say, I don't even holster. The time it takes to draw and aim is too long. I walk around with a pistol in each hand, and I constantly aim at any potential threat. Imagine how much different the OP's video would've been if he'd been dual-wielding at the "customers" as they walked in? None of this "diving and hiding" crap.
Here is a home boy in the mother island of the Philippines that is performing an Israeli draw pretty quick not .3 seconds but still pretty quick. Also my opinion and my opinion only is if you have the time, why not practice performing and perfecting an Israeli draw just to have another skill in your inventory ??? It does not hurt. Enjoy and God Bless
That's the beauty of a free country...a person can choose how they carry, what they carry, or even to carry or not. I've carried chambered for many years and never had an issue with it. I also don't fidgit with my gun either. It stays in a holster, I don't load and unload it, etc. Day in and day out it stays loaded and holstered, trigger covered, unfidgited with. I don't understand why people feel the need to take their guns in and out of a holster, unload and reload, etc. All of that extra handling just increases the odds of bad stuff happening. I also know that if I need to use my weapon, it is ready to go. Nothing else to think about or manipulate under pressure. One less thing to go wrong. I guess that philosophy isn't for everyone.
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When I think of how many times that my sweaty hand has slipped off the slide when racking, or had the first round nose-dive because it got bumped down in the magazine, I shudder to think of carrying on an empty chamber. Understanding the fire mechanisms and safety features of your carry firearm, proper training, and a good holster, goes a long way to providing peace of mind.
However, I really don't feel the need to convert anybody that does carry empty-chambered. If they are that uncertain of their ability to safely carry the firearm, I'm fine if they chose to carry it completely unloaded. Whatever works for them.
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Yes it is possible to quickly draw a gun from concealment and rack the slide, but why bother? I still can't come up with a situation where having the chamber empty would be an advantage. THat clerk is alive because his gun was ready to go.
A long time ago, on a planet far, far away I carried without a chambered round. Then one day a mentor asked me why I was carrying a weapon I wasn't confident about handling. I told him I carried un-chambered for safety. So I wouldn't have an AD. He responded, "Bullets don't exit the gun accidently, you must pull the trigger. Practice safe gun handling until you are confident and keep practicing as long as you carry a weapon."
After I gave what he said much thought I realized he was right. I was afraid that I would accidently discharge the weapon. I went back to basic 101 and dry practiced every handling step/technique until I felt confident. I continue to review and practice safe gun handling on a constant basis.
To each their own. I carry one in the pipe at all times. I don't need to practice various ways to rack the slide in record time.
Since I don't know what the situation will be like if it ever comes, it seems prudent to prepare for the worse case scenario. It does look like the cashier used a practiced maneuver. But there are way too many ifs in there. IMHO he was lucky. I try not to count on luck. But for the record, having a gun and using it for self defense saved his life! Chalk up a win for the GG.
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Best thing to do is for yo to carry how you wish. I will allways carry chambered . In real life stuff happens that may tie up one hand , or you find a guy is very close when some very normal guy goes wacko at 5 feet or your hand slips off the rack or you just don'y get a good full rack or hangs up. Then you have a rock. If you can't trust your handgun to be chambered then change handguns. Put as little to chance a possible cause something ain't going to go right as is.
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