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    Gun Safety Questions? Ask Your Pediatrician

    The piece speaks for itself, with lots to gnaw on:
    AAP: Gun-Free Home Is Safest for Kids
    "When you have to shoot, shoot, don't talk."
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    Taking my 5 year old plinking tomorrow with the Pellet Gun and .22 Ruger Single Six. This will be her first time. I can't wait. Then I"m off in the woods to hunt for white tails.

    Have a good weekend y'all!
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    AAP has its opinion; I have mine. I live in my house; AAP doesn't. Theirs doesn't count.
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    Households without cars are probably considered safer too, and that sounds just as dumb to me. My family is safer because there are guns in my house! Anyone coming in with bad intentions are the only ones at risk!
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    Should ban skateboards, curling irons, and most youth sports as well.

    How about this, EDUCATE your young'uns, know who their friends are, know where your kids are, and get INVOLVED in their lives.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigJon10125 View Post
    Households without cars are probably considered safer too, and that sounds just as dumb to me. My family is safer because there are guns in my house! Anyone coming in with bad intentions are the only ones at risk!
    That was my first though too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by From the article
    Thus, the guidance, published online in Pediatrics and released just days before of the Academy's annual meeting, continues to say that the most effective way to keep children safe from firearm-related injuries and deaths is to keep guns out of homes and communities.
    Sure, if there were no guns at all then people wouldn't find danger from them. But that ain't gonna happen.

    FAR, far better to properly train a person to (a) eliminate the fascination, (b) know the risks and function, (c) know what to do when a deadly weapon is found in a situation where it could pose a threat (ie, the child's alone without adult supervision), and (d) be capable of employing the tool when appropriate and necessary (ie, the 12yr old girl in the news who defended herself against home invasion the other day).

    It's wishful thinking, to hold out hope that there will ever be a world without weaponry of any kind. Similar to the blind faith that dial-a-prayer (calling 911/emergency) is going to help a person survive until the cavalry arrives.
    Your best weapon is your brain. Don't leave home without it.
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    Bucket-free and tricycle-free homes are even safer than gun-free homes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gasmitty View Post
    Bucket-free and tricycle-free homes are even safer than gun-free homes.
    So are elevation-free, step-free, hard-surface-free and sharp-pointy-object-free homes. (Gotta get me one of those.)
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    Your best weapon is your brain. Don't leave home without it.
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    I would tell them their opinion means NOTHING until they are done "practicing" medicine, and have it down to a science, buty then again even science has been proven wrong at times.
    Stupid social engineers.

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    I grew up in a house with lots of guns and most of them loaded.. Six brothers and one Sister. No one got shot, wounded or killed in our house. Some of us got spanked when we decided we could handle the guns without supervision but no one got shot...

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    Most organizations (outside the sporting industries) are against guns. However if you talk to the rank and file members, many don't agree with the board of directors position. IMO they are delving into things that are outside their scope of expertise, and should keep their mouths shut on the subject.
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    I don't know why folks get so upset about all of this stuff.

    I've had the same primary care doc for 17-18 years, and have dealt with quite a few others over
    my long life. Once you get it in your head that they work for you, you can put the rest of the crap in
    a more reasonable perspective. Would you give a hoot if your plumber saw your gun safe and
    commented that he thought it wasn't safe to have guns in a house with kids? No. You just wouldn't hire the
    guy back, or you would ignore him.

    BTW, I think there are aspects of their basic message which are worth paying attention to. They are
    addressing risk-benefit ratios, your chance of a child accidentally getting a hold of a weapon and
    harming himself or a friend (a common enough event), v the chance of actually needing to defend against
    a home invasion using a firearm.

    If there is an anti-gun Agenda, and there may well be though they deny it, well too bad for us. We have our own
    agenda and organizations and means for countering. That's how democracy works.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hopyard View Post
    BTW, I think there are aspects of their basic message which are worth paying attention to. They are
    addressing risk-benefit ratios, your chance of a child accidentally getting a hold of a weapon and harming himself or a friend (a common enough event), v the chance of actually needing to defend against a home invasion using a firearm.
    Disagree, mostly. Ostensibly, sure, the concern's for health and welfare of everyone. But if it were really just about risk-benefit ratios, there IMO there would be a long questionnaire with all sorts of risk points addressed, instead of laser focus on the one or two "usual suspects."

    A far greater risk is li'l Johnnie getting hold of the Ajax cleanser, or similar, or any one of a dozen sharp, pointy things from the garage.

    It's about reasonableness, agendas, expertise, and keeping the patient/doc visit focused on what needs to be focused on. And when firearms is the only intent question asked, it's about the demonizing, not overall health.
    Your best weapon is your brain. Don't leave home without it.
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    [QUOTE=Hopyard;2425748Would you give a hoot if your plumber saw your gun safe and
    commented that he thought it wasn't safe to have guns in a house with kids? No. You just wouldn't hire the
    guy back, or you would ignore him. [/QUOTE]

    Personally my big problem is that the article says they actively lobby for renewed assault weapons bans and various other pieces of legislation that would definitely strip us of many of our freedoms when it comes to weapons. The "this is how democracy works" comment carries no weight with me. The Constitution does not authorize any of what they stand for on this issue, and they have absolutely no business sticking their noses into it. I want to know about pediatric medicine, I'll go to them and gladly listen to their opinion. I want to know about guns, I'll go to someone who actually knows what they're talking about on that subject. For them to not only run their mouths about something they don't understand, and say things that are questionable or just plain untrue, and then to try to get laws passed on top of it....outrageous.

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