This is a discussion on Do you support a businesses right to ban guns(Poll added) within the General Firearm Discussion forums, part of the Related Topics category; Most every state has a RTKBA/self defense statement in it's constitution. This surely means the law abiding citizens in public. Knowing this in advance of ...
Most every state has a RTKBA/self defense statement in it's constitution. This surely means the law abiding citizens in public. Knowing this in advance of planning, starting, opening, continuing operations, growing and/or whatever the business, does a business truly have "equal rights" to control, deny and/or usurp the "law abiding", licensed citizen's right to bear arms when they open their doors to the said public citizen? The "law" states codes that are to be followed in the operation of a business open to the public. What happens if the business owner does not follow them? Are those laws more binding than the laws established by the state regarding the licensed carrying of firearms
I say they do not have the right to deny a lawful practice regulated by the state; those laws being duly enacted by the elected legislature...
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When political power is up for grabs, personal liberty is usually one of the first casualties…
Will they get my money? Never.
I agree completely with linuss
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. ~Burke, Edmund
Proud owner of a G35. And yes I carry it concealed.
It was not a jumping off point for you to twist it into how signs should be posted. Good grief. I don't care what an owner does.
Then I heard the voice of the Lord saying, “Whom shall I send? And who will go for us?”
And I said, “Here am I. Send me!”
You said you don't post a gun-buster sign to deture crime, you post to deture NDs.
The presence of a gun isn't your problem, an ND is your problem.
Hence my suggestion that you simply post a no-ND sign.
See how easily that flows? No problem.
It's the 'oll "keep-it-holstered" test.
If you don't have a demonstratable 'need', such as above-ground fuel tanks for equipment, then banning lawful carry (or any other constitutionally protected right) from your business is wrong regardless.
I am curious where you have gotten the notion that your Constitutionally protected rights trump someone elses Constitutionally protected rights.
A preference to ban guns does not trump the right to carry. This is SCOTUS standard. I've quoted and linked to it so many times the mods are about to hit me with a spamming infraction.
Constitutionally, you need to have a 'need' in order to ban a right. In this case I frequently use above-ground fuel tanks as an example.
But I mean, hey if you want to go that rout, that the constitution only limits government and not private people, then since I'm not the government your constitutional rights regarding land ownership do not limit my right to carry on your property, they only limit the government's ability to carry on your property.
"One of the greatest delusions in the world is the hope that the evils in this world are to be cured by legislation."
--Thomas B. Reed, American Attorney
Second Amendment -- Established December 15, 1791 and slowly eroded ever since What happened to "..... shall not be infringed."