This is a discussion on Do you support a businesses right to ban guns(Poll added) within the General Firearm Discussion forums, part of the Related Topics category; Having owned my own business, I have my own view on this. The business owner pays the rent, utilities, taxes. If he chooses to not ...
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Having owned my own business, I have my own view on this. The business owner pays the rent, utilities, taxes. If he chooses to not allow something on his business property, that is his right, as long it doesn't violate the law. Just like it is your right not to patronize him. If he has a sign on the door that says "No shirt, no shoes, no service", would you go in without a shirt and shoes?
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Of course they do! My right to bear arms is not superior to others rights to keep me out of their domain if they do not like the way I am dressed.
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Here is the benefit of concealed carrying.
Does a business have the option of denying people from bringing weapons on their property?
Yes.
Do I have the right to bear arms?
Yes.
Will I willfully break the rules that a business owner has in place to carry a concealed weapon?
Yes. What they don't know won't hurt them.
If the business refuses me and wants me off of their property, must I comply?
Yes, or face trespass charges. Regardless of whether or not I have a firearm.
If every business in town was posted, I might not have the option of moving to another town. Maybe, I'm not the model citizen. That's just how I feel.
Not naming names but yes they would. There rights override everyone else's private property or not.If he has a sign on the door that says "No shirt, no shoes, no service", would you go in without a shirt and shoes?
"A first rate man with a third rate gun is far better than the other way around". The gun is a tool, you are the craftsman that makes it work. There are those who say "if I had to do it, I could" yet they never go out and train to do it. (WETSU)
I realize that sometimes the public view on this subject doesn't go both ways. But I absolutely support a property owner's rights exactly as much as I support our 2A rights. Which happens to be exactly as much as I support my right not to be on their property.
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Ain't freedom great!
Here is the legal definition of public and private property.
Public property is any property that is controlled by a state or by a whole community. Private property is any property that is not public property. Private property may be under the control of a single person or by a group of persons jointly.
So according to the legal definition Wal Mart, Mom and Pop grocery or any other business is private property and therefore under the control of the owner therefore you must abide by their rules.
"A first rate man with a third rate gun is far better than the other way around". The gun is a tool, you are the craftsman that makes it work. There are those who say "if I had to do it, I could" yet they never go out and train to do it. (WETSU)
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Yes - I support the right for business owners to refuse firearms on their property.
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if stores, restaurants, and shops can have dress codes, then they can also have a no-gun policy.
its their property. they have the right to regulate peoples' behavior on their property.
don't like it? don't go there.
banning guns isn't like banning black people or gay people. guns aren't people, they are merely an object..and objects can be banned from private property.
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Sure I support their right to restrict guns on thier property but that doesnt mean im going to: 1) listen to it or 2) go in, in the first place.
But in FL those signs have no lawfull grounding to where I have to obide. Now if they see it and ask me to leave then I will fully understand and do as i am asked
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Just as a follow up...I have bought several firearms at Gander Mountain here in Virginia. They do not allow the concealed carry of a firearm in their stores. Any weapon has to be checked as soon as you enter...then it is secured in a case with a zip tie. The same rules apply at the gun shows here in Fredericksburg. Don't make sense but that's the way it is. Walmart...carry concealed or open all day long, they could care less. At the gun shows the city police secure your firearm with zip ties until you leave.
I believe that the owner of private property can forbid the carrying of guns on their property, enforce a dress code of their choosing, ban or permit smoking, etc....
If I don't like their rules then I don't have to go there.
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Which goes a long way to explain why I refuse to support gun shows with my patronage. Most of them here in Ohio are also held in venues normally posted with gunbuster signs. Gander Mountain priced itself out of my patronage. Seven hundred bucks for a 9mm Glock.Originally Posted by lizjimbo
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I am surprised at Gander Mountain. The two near me are posted that that inspection does not include weapons being carried for personal defense. The Bass Pro near me has similar signs about inspection. I asked the manager if that includes weapons carried by CHL holders for self defense. He said no, that policy was only meant to apply to weapons being brought in for service or that would be handled during some kind of transaction.
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