This is a discussion on Facebook post on what happen in CT. . . within the General Firearm Discussion forums, part of the Related Topics category; Originally Posted by boricua I wonder how he/she came up with the "more than 32,000 deaths a year occur from gun violence." As far as ...
Guns dont kill people people kill people, automobiles dont kill people the driver kills people, what im saying is by taking away all this is not how you solve problems, that also would be taking away our rights. Bad guys will always have access to things that are takin away from good guys, your only hurting us good semeritan when you take away(fact) !!! ...Eddie.
Don't go there. This is not a Conservative versus Liberal issue, nor can we afford to make it one. I support many Liberal views that have NOTHING do with guns, nor do I consider myself to be or label myself as a Conservative, yet I am as staunch of a pro-2A supporter and believe in taking responsibility for my safety as much anyone else here.
Our House Is Protected By The Good Lord And A gun. You Might Meet Both Of Them If You Show Up Inside My House Uninvited.
Might not be a Conservative vs Liberal issue yet but it will turn into one. Just watch. I have some liberal viewpoints that have nothing to to with guns as well but I still have the right to express my opinion as you do. Why should I be censored just because you have a point to make.
Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same.
Ronald Reagan
the news media is mostly liberal and they will make it seem like we gunners are heartless killers
and while gun deaths like CT are tragic of the 10000 gun deaths a year
the percentage of them actually bad guy on good guy are small,the biggest percentage is
gang deaths......(bad guy on bad guy)
As far a SCOTUS goes I only have this to say about "restrictions" on guns...
Read it and understand it .. Please
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SCOTUS does NOT have the right to alter the wording of the constitution!
They can only interpret it.
It takes a CON CON with two thirds of the States before it can even be touched. Period.
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Enough is enough!
Ben Franklin said it over 200 years ago and it's by far the best answer to that drivel:
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety"
I am not trying to censor you, at least in the way you think. Please do realize that exposing your anti Liberal views only damages our cause.
1) Applying labels minimizes and isolates
2) It causes potential supporters to be turned off
3) It allows opponents to make guns an issue sacred to their oppopsition, justifying and encouraging them to oppose you.
4) It reflects poorly on you, and by extension al gun owners.
The Conservative platform can NOT carry the guns rights position alone. I doesn't have the strength or support. Minizing and reducing that support in the name of partisan name calling is not constructive.
Let's not confuse "liberal" with Progressives. Conservative-liberal is a continuum where opinions are placed on an admittedly artificial scale. What we should worry about is progressives, they despise individualism and seek to establish a collective with elites determining the good of the whole. That is why they hate the Second Amendment-firearm ownership is the pinnacle of individual behavior, where the individual takes his (or her) own security and safety into their own hands without reliance on government.
I'd rather be lucky than good any day
There's nothing that will change someone's moral outlook quicker than cash in large sums.
Majority rule only works if you're also considering individual rights. Because you can't have five wolves and one sheep voting on what to have for supper.
I'd hate to be "educated" by that teacher...
"Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet."
-General James Mattis, USMC
1) Applying labels minimizes and isolates.
Really, we haven't been labeled by anti gun liberals and anti's. Since when is calling a liberal a label. Isn't that what they call each other?
2) It causes potential supporters to be turned off.
I don't think we have any anti gun supporters. Potential supporters should know what side there choosing and I think they already know what side there on.
3) It allows opponents to make guns an issue sacred to their opposition, justifying and encouraging them to oppose you.
Isn't Taking away our guns already their sacred issue? Where have you been?
4) It reflects poorly on you, and by extension all gun owners. Really, me not making a special effort to not offend the antis reflects poorly on me ? Tell that to the NRA and other gun groups trying to protect your rights.
I believe I am politically correct. If you have a different political viewpoint and approach then more power to you. As far as I'm concerned we should be able to play by the same rules as the anti's. If you don't, then don't. Thats half the problem as far as I'm concerned, everyone needs to be politically correct. We'll ask the antis to play by the same rules. I will admit I should have used antis and not liberals. I know Liberals with love of guns. He's my brother-in-Law. Yes I am anti Anti's. I didn't expose my contempt for the anti's. it's a given. They are attempting to alter my freedom and take my guns.
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Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same.
Ronald Reagan
You may want to reconsider your "friends"...
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