Crime rate amongst those with CCW?

Crime rate amongst those with CCW?

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    Crime rate amongst those with CCW?

    It seems to be commonly accepted that citizens with a CCW commit fewer crimes on average than the general population. Does anyone know of a good information source with statistics that support this (links I could reference if you know of them)? Is there a national summary or is this just by state?


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    From the Texas Dept of Public Safety website. Multiple years of TX permit holder's conviction rates vs the general public.

    Texas DPS - CHL Conviction Rates Reports
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    NETim, Thank You Very Much! I appreciate the link.

    . BTW, it was perfect and the information I was looking for. As you can imagine, the Conn shooting has come up in other forums, including an engineering forum I subscribe to. One person took great exception to my claim that those with CC permits are statistically more law abiding than the average citizen and rather than voicing issues with my data threw personal insults. Another forum member started spouting off about how he sees people brandishing in response to road rage several times a week in Houston. His quote was, "this happens on a daily and nightly basis in Houston..every fifth or sixth time a "law abiding citizen" loses his temper, he starts waving a pistol in the air."

    According to the data from the Texas Dept of Public Safety in your link, according to the latest data, people with CC permits are convicted of about 0.18% of the crimes, yet the most recent figures (permits active / population) puts the CC permit holders at about 2% of the population. So, in essence, 2% of the population is committing less than 0.2% of the crimes.

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    I have also been told that CHL holders in Texas also commit crimes at a lower rate than police officers. I wish I had a concrete source for this information.

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    Uber low, in state after state.

    To my knowledge, there isn't a requirement to report the state stats nationally. I'm sure someone has compiled a summary from all those state summaries, but keep in mind the basic stats and how they're compiled/computed vary from state to state. Unknown if accurate comparison can be made, if they differ enough in what the state data contains.
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    Crime rate amongst those with CCW?

    All in all still very interesting. Will definitely continue to follow this thread. Good work.

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    It seems those that oppose guns will not accept the fact now that 49 states have carry laws America did not turn in to the "Wild Wild West".
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    Going to confuse people with more facts eh? Fabulous.
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    Here are some numbers for Connecticut: GUN PERMITS

    What's missing is a current number of CT permits; best data available is an estimate of 143,000 in 1999. The same source (an attorney who specializes in gun issues) also states that the largest number of revocations each year are due to orders of protection (OOP), including restraining orders. Most of these are temporary in nature. So if we assume half of the revocations due to OOPs which ultimately expire, the annual revocation rate is less than one half of one percent of CT permit holders.

    I did some quick estimations and it appears that slightly over 8% of Connecticut's over-21 population has carry permits. If 0.5% of these are revoked, that amounts to 0.04% of the population over 21, which is a tiny, tiny number, probably not statistically significant.
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