Help with mounting my new scope so I can keep front iron sight on

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So I got a Nikon P-223 3-9x scope for Christmas.

I also got some steel ring mounts from Cabela's the other day to mount it. I realized that the rings I got don't elevate the scope high enough from the barrel so the front lens of the scope isn't raised high enough. I know I need either a higher mount or a rail elevator. I think I'd opt for a higher mount so I have less moving/attached pieces which has less of a possibility of movement once set.

The other problem is that I want to keep my front F sight on the rifle in case I need to ditch the scope and go iron-only in the case of emergency for whatever reason. This means the scope has to be a tad higher.

What do you guys suggest?

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plz help!

[atctimmy]

Almost all ARs need high or extra high rings. I like extra high.

Nikon M-223 XR 1-Piece Scope Mount Picatinny-Style 20 MOA

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Almost all ARs need high or extra high rings. I like extra high.

Warne 30mm Maxima Quick-Detachable Picatinny-Style Ring Aimpoint AR-15

is that tall enough to clear the front sight? and jesus that's expensive, $67 PER ring??

[SIXTO]

We are talking about an AR? Or something different?

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We are talking about an AR? Or something different?

AR-15

[atctimmy]

is that tall enough to clear the front sight? and jesus that's expensive, $67 PER ring??

I pasted the wrong link. I like Warne mounts but those were for a 30mm scope.

When you say clear the front sight, what do you mean exactly? Is the scope hitting the sight or do you want to look over it?

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I pasted the wrong link. I like Warne mounts but those were for a 30mm scope.

When you say clear the front sight, what do you mean exactly? Is the scope hitting the sight or do you want to look over it?

It's not far enough forward to physically touch it, I just want it high enough so the scope can look over it. Is this weird of me or is this common?

[atctimmy]

It's not far enough forward to physically touch it, I just want it high enough so the scope can look over it. Is this weird of me or is this common?

You cannot look over the front sight. You will have to look "through" it.

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You cannot look over the front sight. You will have to look "through" it.

so I assume the front sight will just show up as a blurry blob in the scope then?

Do a lot of people do this? How easy is it to remove a front sight and put it back on accurately?

[aus71383]

You won't see the front sight. Relax. Just mount the scope and go sight it in.

You can't remove the front sight because it is also the gas block. Raising the scope high enough that you can't see the front sight is unrealistic. Cheek weld is much more important. Once you get the scope on and look through it, you'll find that the front sight isn't even visible.

Austin

[aus71383]

Also....be sure to sight it in at the proper range. 25/36/50 yards are the usual choices. It's good to know the height over the bore that your scope is so you can know the drop of the round. There was a pretty recent thread on this I think.

Austin

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You won't see the front sight. Relax. Just mount the scope and go sight it in.

You can't remove the front sight because it is also the gas block. Raising the scope high enough that you can't see the front sight is unrealistic. Cheek weld is much more important. Once you get the scope on and look through it, you'll find that the front sight isn't even visible.

Austin

So, do you think I need a riser on my rail? or just mount it high enough for the scope to get on properly? so even if the front sight is in front of the scope, i will be able to see thru it?? i'm just trying to limit my trips to the store!

I figured i'd sight it in at 100yds, the recticle also has dashes for 300yds, 500yds

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which nikon mounts would be better?

Amazon.com: Nikon P-Series Mount: Sports & Outdoors
these
or,
Amazon.com: Nikon M-223 XR (743) AR Mount w/ 20 MOA Slope (Black): Sports & Outdoors

how important is the MOA? and is it true that it's better to have 2 different rings because one solid piece can warp eventually making the scope permanently off

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actually, the second mount is M-series, not sure if it would fit the p-series scope