Help with mounting my new scope so I can keep front iron sight on

This is a discussion on Help with mounting my new scope so I can keep front iron sight on within the General Firearm Discussion forums, part of the Related Topics category; So I got a Nikon P-223 3-9x scope for Christmas. I also got some steel ring mounts from Cabela's the other day to mount it. ...

Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast
Results 1 to 15 of 41
Like Tree4Likes

Thread: Help with mounting my new scope so I can keep front iron sight on

  1. #1
    Ex Member Array AdBro's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Location
    USA
    Posts
    746

    Help with mounting my new scope so I can keep front iron sight on

    So I got a Nikon P-223 3-9x scope for Christmas.

    I also got some steel ring mounts from Cabela's the other day to mount it. I realized that the rings I got don't elevate the scope high enough from the barrel so the front lens of the scope isn't raised high enough. I know I need either a higher mount or a rail elevator. I think I'd opt for a higher mount so I have less moving/attached pieces which has less of a possibility of movement once set.

    The other problem is that I want to keep my front F sight on the rifle in case I need to ditch the scope and go iron-only in the case of emergency for whatever reason. This means the scope has to be a tad higher.

    What do you guys suggest?

  2. Remove Ads

  3. #2
    Ex Member Array AdBro's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Location
    USA
    Posts
    746
    plz help!

  4. #3
    VIP Member
    Array atctimmy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Location
    NSA Headquarters
    Posts
    6,368
    Almost all ARs need high or extra high rings. I like extra high.

    Nikon M-223 XR 1-Piece Scope Mount Picatinny-Style 20 MOA
    Mark Twain:
    The government is merely a servant -- merely a temporary servant; it cannot be its prerogative to determine what is right and what is wrong, and decide who is a
    patriot and who isn't. Its function is to obey orders, not originate them.

  5. #4
    Ex Member Array AdBro's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Location
    USA
    Posts
    746
    Quote Originally Posted by atctimmy View Post
    Almost all ARs need high or extra high rings. I like extra high.

    Warne 30mm Maxima Quick-Detachable Picatinny-Style Ring Aimpoint AR-15
    is that tall enough to clear the front sight? and jesus that's expensive, $67 PER ring??

  6. #5
    Administrator
    Array SIXTO's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Location
    Ohio
    Posts
    19,655
    We are talking about an AR? Or something different?
    "Just blame Sixto"

  7. #6
    Ex Member Array AdBro's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Location
    USA
    Posts
    746
    Quote Originally Posted by SIXTO View Post
    We are talking about an AR? Or something different?
    AR-15

  8. #7
    VIP Member
    Array atctimmy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Location
    NSA Headquarters
    Posts
    6,368
    Quote Originally Posted by AdBro View Post
    is that tall enough to clear the front sight? and jesus that's expensive, $67 PER ring??
    I pasted the wrong link. I like Warne mounts but those were for a 30mm scope.

    When you say clear the front sight, what do you mean exactly? Is the scope hitting the sight or do you want to look over it?
    Mark Twain:
    The government is merely a servant -- merely a temporary servant; it cannot be its prerogative to determine what is right and what is wrong, and decide who is a
    patriot and who isn't. Its function is to obey orders, not originate them.

  9. #8
    Ex Member Array AdBro's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Location
    USA
    Posts
    746
    Quote Originally Posted by atctimmy View Post
    I pasted the wrong link. I like Warne mounts but those were for a 30mm scope.

    When you say clear the front sight, what do you mean exactly? Is the scope hitting the sight or do you want to look over it?
    It's not far enough forward to physically touch it, I just want it high enough so the scope can look over it. Is this weird of me or is this common?

  10. #9
    VIP Member
    Array atctimmy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Location
    NSA Headquarters
    Posts
    6,368
    Quote Originally Posted by AdBro View Post
    It's not far enough forward to physically touch it, I just want it high enough so the scope can look over it. Is this weird of me or is this common?
    You cannot look over the front sight. You will have to look "through" it.
    aus71383 likes this.
    Mark Twain:
    The government is merely a servant -- merely a temporary servant; it cannot be its prerogative to determine what is right and what is wrong, and decide who is a
    patriot and who isn't. Its function is to obey orders, not originate them.

  11. #10
    Ex Member Array AdBro's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Location
    USA
    Posts
    746
    Quote Originally Posted by atctimmy View Post
    You cannot look over the front sight. You will have to look "through" it.
    so I assume the front sight will just show up as a blurry blob in the scope then?

    Do a lot of people do this? How easy is it to remove a front sight and put it back on accurately?

  12. #11
    VIP Member Array aus71383's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Location
    WA
    Posts
    2,543
    You won't see the front sight. Relax. Just mount the scope and go sight it in.

    You can't remove the front sight because it is also the gas block. Raising the scope high enough that you can't see the front sight is unrealistic. Cheek weld is much more important. Once you get the scope on and look through it, you'll find that the front sight isn't even visible.

    Austin
    nedrgr21 and dukalmighty like this.

  13. #12
    VIP Member Array aus71383's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Location
    WA
    Posts
    2,543
    Also....be sure to sight it in at the proper range. 25/36/50 yards are the usual choices. It's good to know the height over the bore that your scope is so you can know the drop of the round. There was a pretty recent thread on this I think.

    Austin

  14. #13
    Ex Member Array AdBro's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Location
    USA
    Posts
    746
    Quote Originally Posted by aus71383 View Post
    You won't see the front sight. Relax. Just mount the scope and go sight it in.

    You can't remove the front sight because it is also the gas block. Raising the scope high enough that you can't see the front sight is unrealistic. Cheek weld is much more important. Once you get the scope on and look through it, you'll find that the front sight isn't even visible.

    Austin
    So, do you think I need a riser on my rail? or just mount it high enough for the scope to get on properly? so even if the front sight is in front of the scope, i will be able to see thru it?? i'm just trying to limit my trips to the store!

    I figured i'd sight it in at 100yds, the recticle also has dashes for 300yds, 500yds

  15. #14
    Ex Member Array AdBro's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Location
    USA
    Posts
    746
    which nikon mounts would be better?

    Amazon.com: Nikon P-Series Mount: Sports & Outdoors
    these
    or,
    Amazon.com: Nikon M-223 XR (743) AR Mount w/ 20 MOA Slope (Black): Sports & Outdoors

    how important is the MOA? and is it true that it's better to have 2 different rings because one solid piece can warp eventually making the scope permanently off

  16. #15
    Ex Member Array AdBro's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Location
    USA
    Posts
    746
    actually, the second mount is M-series, not sure if it would fit the p-series scope

Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast

Links

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

Search tags for this page

ar 15 gas block iron sights that can be used with see through scope mounts
,
how tall ar scope mounts to clear front sight
,

mount rings on the p-233 on

,
mounted a scope and it hits iron sights
,
mounting a scope on a ar with front sight gas block
,
nikon m223 xr ar mount fixed front sight
,

nikon p series scope rings and front sight

,

nikon p-233 with fixed front sight

,

p223 3x9x40 with back up sights

,
see through scope rings ar
,

will nikon p 233 fit over front iron sights

,
will p-223 clear front iron sight
Click on a term to search for related topics.