Moving with Class III Items

This is a discussion on Moving with Class III Items within the General Firearm Discussion forums, part of the Related Topics category; Anyone have any experiance with moving to another state and bringing their Class III items with them? Wondering how much of a headache it is. ...

Results 1 to 7 of 7
Like Tree2Likes
  • 2 Post By dukalmighty

Thread: Moving with Class III Items

  1. #1
    Senior Member Array Zsnake's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Location
    Northern Virginia
    Posts
    617

    Moving with Class III Items

    Anyone have any experiance with moving to another state and bringing their Class III items with them?

    Wondering how much of a headache it is.

    Thanks

  2. Remove Ads

  3. #2
    Member
    Array rigel42's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Location
    Austin, TX
    Posts
    473
    I'm also curious. I would own a silencer and a short barrel rifle but I'm living in my 3rd state in 5 years and life is hard enough without the extra headache.

  4. #3
    VIP Member Array dukalmighty's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Location
    texas
    Posts
    15,177
    Category Four
    A permanent change of residence to a new state requires notice to the ATF. Again, a Form 5320.20 is used to document the permanent interstate move with notice provided to the ATF for all types of NFA firearms, including AOWs and suppressors. Similar to a temporary move, ATF will generally approve the permanent change of address if the destination state allows NFA firearms.

    In some cases, certain NFA types of firearms may be permitted, while other types are not. For example, Washington State allows the possession of AOWs, suppressors, and destructive devices, but prohibits the possession of machine guns, short-barreled rifles, and short-barreled shotguns. A request to transport any of the three prohibited types of firearms to Washington State on a temporary or permanent basis would be denied by the ATF. When in doubt, seek advice from the ATF directly or competent legal counsel familiar with NFA firearm regulations.

    Since individuals are not always able to drive to their final destinations, NFA firearms may need to be shipped through a common carrier or as luggage on a domestic airline. In these instances, the NFA firearm owner has several additional responsibilities. In the post-September 11th world, the Transportation Security Administration (TSA) has been charged with physically examining all cargo carried on aircraft originating from the US.

    If an NFA firearm is shipped as aircraft luggage, be aware that the regulations for shipping a firearm are consistent, regardless of the type of firearm being shipped. All firearm owners traveling by air are required to ship firearms within a locked, hard-sided case. The case could be as small as a pistol case, or could be hard-sided luggage, as long as the case can be secured with a lock.

    NFA firearm owners traveling by air should be prepared for a physical inspection of the firearm by TSA officials, and in rare instances, additional security screening. In several instances, passengers have been detained or delayed while TSA officials verify that the NFA firearm is legal. Having multiple copies of all the ATF documents may prevent a potentially volatile situation and may assist in getting the situation resolved in a timely manner. If traveling with NFA firearms as checked aircraft luggage, plan to arrive at the airport early, be patient, and follow all directions from TSA and other LE officers.

    If traveling by air is not practical, it is permissible to ship firearms to yourself or to a licensed firearms dealer through a common carrier. This is particularly convenient when trying to avoid luggage fees and the potential for lost luggage by the airlines. In other instances, an NFA firearm may need to be shipped to a licensed dealer for repair or sale.

    Owners of NFA firearms should be aware that many common carriers, UPS and Fed-Ex included, have specific requirements for the shipment of machine guns and other NFA firearms. Often, common carriers will require that firearms be shipped via overnight delivery, resulting in additional cost. If the correct shipping procedure is not followed, private carriers have been known to deny insurance claims for loss, theft, or damage. It pays to know the limitations and restrictions prior to shipping firearms via a common carrier.

    The US Postal Service allows rifles to be mailed, but “pistols, revolvers, or other firearms capable of being concealed” cannot be mailed by anyone but licensed federal firearms licensees. Presumably, short-barreled shotguns and short-barreled rifles could be mailed if the firearm is not capable of being “concealed.” Although time consuming, shipping a firearm through USPS Registered and Insured mail is probably one of the most secure methods of shipping a firearm. Due to the internal procedures used by the postal service, it is highly unlikely that a piece of registered mail will be lost. If registered mail is lost or misplaced, the postal service will generally pay the insured amount without complaint.

    Final Notes
    Although there are added restrictions and requirements for the transportation of NFA firearms, the requirements can typically be met with a little prior planning. This synopsis of the legal requirements needed to transport NFA firearms is not intended to address all potential legal issues that may arise during intra- or interstate movement of NFA firearms. Again, when in doubt, seek advice from ATF directly or competent legal counsel familiar with NFA firearm regulations.
    rigel42 and Hopyard like this.
    "Outside of the killings, Washington has one of the lowest crime rates in the country,"
    --Mayor Marion Barry, Washington , DC .

  5. #4
    Senior Member Array Zsnake's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Location
    Northern Virginia
    Posts
    617
    Thanks, Duka...do you know if you need permission from the Sheriff in the county you are moving to before sending these items.

    Never mind, I'll contact him directly once the decision to move is finalized.

    It does not appear to be the headache I thought it would be.

  6. #5
    VIP Member
    Array OldVet's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Location
    S. Florida, north of the Miami mess, south of the Mouse trap
    Posts
    15,880
    You need to pick up the latest American Hangunner magazine as it has an article covering much of what you're asking. Basicly you don't need the sheriff's "permission" as the form only requires his acknowledgement that you aren't legally prohibited from having it, etc. You do need to know if your tiens are legal in teh state you're moving to, for instance not all states allow machine guns--licensed or not.
    Retired USAF E-8. Remember: You're being watched!
    Paranoia strikes deep, into your heart it will creep. It starts when you're always afraid... "For What It's Worth" Buffalo Springfield

  7. #6
    Senior Moderator
    Array HotGuns's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Location
    Arkansas
    Posts
    14,840
    The Form that you fill out is taken with you(once approved) in case any issue arise, like getting stopped on the side of the road with all kinds of fancy toys. Basically it tells the ATF that you are making the trip so that they can verify with Law Enforcement ( if needed) the fact that you are legal.
    They will only approve the form if is going through states that are legal, if you are taking a route though a state that doesnt allow it, they wont approve it.
    The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those that speak it...- George Orwell

    AR. CHL Instr. 07/02 FFL
    Like custom guns and stuff? Check this out...
    http://bobbailey1959.wordpress.com/

  8. #7
    Senior Member Array Zsnake's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Location
    Northern Virginia
    Posts
    617
    Thanks, folks, I believe I have a handle on it now!

Links

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

Search tags for this page

class 3 weapons and moving?
,

class iii firearms

,
content
,
how to relocate to another strate with class iii items
,
moving class ii firearms
,
moving to texas with class iii weapons
,
moving with class 3
,

moving with class 3 firearm

,
moving with class 3 firearm what to do
,
moving with class 3 items
,
moving with class iii item
,
traveling with class 3 items
Click on a term to search for related topics.