Okay, here is the deal.

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    Unhappy Okay, here is the deal.

    I need a little help.

    I'm a college student, 21, I own a 10/22 that I bought the day I turned 18 and an S&W M&P Shield that I bought to carry when back in my home state, but these two firearms alone don't make me feel "prepared for anything." What I want is a decent rifle that will serve the purpose an AR-15 would. I know with the current political climate an AR-15 is nearly impossible to come by, and I have already written my representatives multiple times, and joined the NRA, trust me i'm in the fight. I know i'm ridiculously late to the game... but I can't help it.

    So what should someone in my position do? I'd like something chambered in .223 or higher, preferably semi-auto, that I can customize to be effective at medium to long range (out to maybe 400yds). I have spent a little time looking at different AR-15 builds, but I really feel helpless in getting my hands on anything like that. The M1A comes to mind, but I am really lost in a sea of confusion and lack of supply as to which direction to go.

    My LGS had a used Ruger Mini-14 in stock the other day, should I just be watching like a hawk trying to pick up whatever I can get my hands on? Would it be worth it to place an order for a Colt LE6920 or something similar and just wait? HELP!
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    Ruger Mini-14 is where Id go.. before you cant get those either.

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    Can't go wrong with the Ruger. It will give you the peace of mind you're looking for, and you can buy an AR later, when this craziness is over. I'd also look at the new Ruger Scout (Gunsite). It's not semi auto, which means you should be able to find it, and it's an awesome little package. Chambered for the 7.62 (.308 round), magazine fed.

    I'd get one of these, even if I had a couple of AR's.

    Good luck & be safe.
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    Thanks guys, that helps. Ruger Scout looks like it might be the ticket. .308 would be a nice round to get some more reach out of! A nice scope and bipod on the Scout and i'd have a tidy little setup.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheConcealer View Post
    Would it be worth it to place an order for a Colt LE6920 or something similar and just wait?
    There are plenty of Colt LE6920 rifles that have sold recently on GunBroker and other auction/classifieds type sites, for not much more than in gun stores. Placing an order at a LGS is one way to go. Going after any one of the current no-reserve type auctions on GB or elsewhere is another. Depends on what your preference is, regarding waiting.

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    Was doing some research on the Scout, looks not half bad but I have read some complaints about the accuracy? Are there any other good magazine fed bolt actions, or semi-auto that could be a longer distance tool?
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    I think you need to explain what you mean by "decent rifle that will serve the purpose an AR-15 would" a bit more. Are you talking strictly semi auto? If so, why? Do you mean survival rifle? If so, I think there are far better options. Are you talking defensive scenario as a breakdown in society? If so, I think there are far better options. I own both an AR-15 and a AK-47 and I can honestly say that given the second to scenarios I listed, the AR or AK would not be my first choice for either of them.
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    If you're looking at a heavier caliber the M1A is where the search begins and ends in my mind.
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    Alright let me clarify a tad here...

    Exactly, breakdown of society, political unrest, survival rifle, etc. My preference would be semi-auto, but I know they might be hard to get a hold of today, so bolt is an option. Another preference is some pretty good accuracy out to about 400 yards. Other than that, a readily available caliber is the only other necessary trait.

    Hopefully this helps.
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    Honestly, based on what you just wrote I'd look for an AR as my first choice. A Mini would be good for most of what you are talking about but I never achieved an accuracy at X hundred yards that I would consider acceptable for hunting or anything else where one shot had to count. Around a hundred, yeah, it's fine for SD, HD or a zombie attack though.

    Personally I wouldn't consider a bolt action until/unless those become your only choices. The current hysteria may make finding one difficult but any AWB will probably be a long, hard fight (unless he shrugs off the Constitution altogether) so you could still get an order in somewhere and actually get something.

    I guess what I'm saying is I'd focus on the things that are sure to become targets of the Anti's now; you can always fall back and punt on something else at a later date.
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    Good strategy there. Disgusting to think we would ever have to "fall back" but it seems incredibly likely now.

    Since I was partial to an AR before I started this thread, and my knowledge of AR's at the moment is limited, what's a solid platform that will be reliable and accurate?
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    Honestly, I don't know what you should stay away from, but I think any of the usual suspects would be good to go, and I say this because pickings will be slim with everything so I don't think you can honestly afford to be choosy. Colt, PSA, Spikes, S&W, Core-15, BMC... There's a ton of decent to good to great builds out there. Finding them is going to be the issue.

    The thing to remember about the AR is changing individual components is fairly easy, so even if something fails, replacing it isn't necessarily going to mean sending it back to the manufacturer or anything extreme.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheConcealer View Post
    Alright let me clarify a tad here...

    Exactly, breakdown of society, political unrest, survival rifle, etc. My preference would be semi-auto, but I know they might be hard to get a hold of today, so bolt is an option. Another preference is some pretty good accuracy out to about 400 yards. Other than that, a readily available caliber is the only other necessary trait.

    Hopefully this helps.
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    ...might be of some use to you...if it's not too late
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    I could think of a few, but its more the ABILITY to do so, if the need ever arose.
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