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    US Homicide Rates 1885-2012

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    You're altogether too rational.

    Of course, those statistics don't indicate the source, where the data came from, at least for prior to 1960 (unless I'm missing it). Hard to look further into it, without that.
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    It's nice to believe but there were BIG gun control laws enacted in the 30s. If there is a direct correlation then there should have been more spikes afterwards. Could it be WW2 caused the anomaly? Or is the whole thing completely circumstantial?

    The truth is that, even though it's nice to look at, this chart really means nothing.
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    This is a little off topic, but damn I want a Thompson.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blitzburgh View Post
    This is a little off topic, but damn I want a Thompson.
    No, I think that's a LOT off topic. : )
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    Quote Originally Posted by atctimmy View Post
    No, I think that's a LOT off topic. : )
    Hey whats homicide rates without bringing up the Thompson.....
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    Mostly in Chicago. 500 reported 2012. Thus the whole country is taken down.
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    ...gun control doesn't...

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    A Thompson is never off topic!
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    An Analysis of the influence of Population density

    “By and large, the available evidence increasingly tends to suggest that most types of crime tend to increase in levels of occurrence with increasing population density. This relationship, however, is moderated by SES. A cluster of affluent high-rise apartments in Mumbai or New York may have high density, but will also have a high level of guardianship, thus inhibiting crime. On the other hand, a high density poverty area will incorporate in its lifestyle incentives for predatory behaviours and disincentives for guardianship, given the hazards associated with confronting criminals (on their turf) or witnessing criminal acts.+

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    Quote Originally Posted by ccw9mm View Post
    You're altogether too rational.

    Of course, those statistics don't indicate the source, where the data came from, at least for prior to 1960 (unless I'm missing it). Hard to look further into it, without that.
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    For those who are curious, the imposition of “Big Tim” Sullivan law raised the United States crime rate by two full points, since the number of murders elsewhere declined in 1911.
    That must have been the development by John Moses Browning in 1911 that triggered the decline. ;)

    BTW "Homicide" does not mean mean "Gun" but it is interesting how this looks.
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    ...amazing that the "Post JFK assassination gun control laws enacted" drop happened...before 1968, when the laws were enacted...and went up radically for at least ten years after...this is cwap...

    ...another source from the web shows murder rates climbed steadily after 68, when the mighty GCA passed... http://www.disastercenter.com/crime/uscrime.htm

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snub44 View Post
    ...amazing that the "Post JFK assassination gun control laws enacted" drop happened...before 1968, when the laws were enacted...and went up radically for at least ten years after...this is cwap...

    ...another source from the web shows murder rates climbed steadily after 68, when the mighty GCA passed... United States Crime Rates 1960 - 2011
    whats amazing with those stats is that after 1995, when concealed carry laws really started to take off, the murder rape and robbery rates started to decline noticeably. But don't try to explain that to the libs, they won't believe you.
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    darn those guns! killing people all willy nilly!!
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    ...or scissors...coulda been a bunch of the murders were scissors...

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