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    Gun Ownership Mandatory

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    Kennesaw, ga already has gun ownership "mandatory" for head of household.

    It's on the books but it isn't enforced to any degree




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    I bet those in favor of forcing people to buy a gun ae also livid that they are forced to buy health insurance.
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    "Mandatory" -anything is counter to freedom, therefor I am against it. If I happen to CHOOSE to own a weapon and take responsibility for my safety then great. If I happen to CHOOSE NOT to own a weapon perhaps I should receive a monthly invoice for additional police coverage.
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    I already practice that with my immediate family. To get the City to ablige would be some nice frosting on the cake. However, it would not be sporting to the idiots who commit crimes that would justify firearms protection.

    There is a actually a great study that was done at the GA State Prison (yeah, all thoes BMF) outside of Kennesaw, GA. Almost 100% (litterally the very vast majority of the inmates) stated that they would not go to Kennesaw because they knew everyone (well, most) owned guns. LOL ((I'm looking for the study to post))

    Gee, think if DC, Chicago, Philly, Detroit, Oakland.......... Name a Progressivly Left Led crap hole city....... adopted this policy.............. Lots of dead criminals and less crime, possibly.................


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    Quote Originally Posted by RoadRunner71 View Post
    "Mandatory" -anything is counter to freedom, therefor I am against it. If I happen to CHOOSE to own a weapon and take responsibility for my safety then great. If I happen to CHOOSE NOT to own a weapon perhaps I should receive a monthly invoice for additional police coverage.
    I agree that liberty excludes government force on honest citizens. I don't agree that your "monthly invoice" penalty/tax buys you additional coverage or solves anything. If cops aren't available, then it's an empty bill of sale, notwithstanding that SCOTUS rules that cops have no obligation to protect the public.

    There have been times when our colonial governments and new federal government mandated ownership of a military grade firearm with reporting to militia muster for inspection and registration.

    The Nelson, GA proposal seems to be a strong suggestion rather than a good law. But while it's strange in modern society, it has historic roots in our American heritage.
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    I should have amplified but I was getting frustrated with typing on my phone rather than my computer.

    What I would have added is this. The other alternative to that monthly bill would be for that individual to simply shut up and deal with the consequences of his or her decisions without whining about it. Life is a gamble at the best of times. If someone doesn't want to take advantage of certain tools which may provide an edge in that gamble, well, that is their problem.
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    Government forcing a person to give up their guns or government forcing a person to own a gun is still the government forcing a person to do something in either case.

    Not good.
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    The "Mandatory" gun law in Kennesaw was done more as a tongue-in-cheek, against the national trend to disarm citizens. The mandatory part was NEVER enforced. I think it did send a very strong massage to criminals to go else where. The overall crime rate in its surrounding cities has increased over the years but Kennesaw saw continuous decline in crime rate in its city limit. Coincidence? Maybe some from the Metro Atlanta area can chime in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pistology View Post
    I agree that liberty excludes government force on honest citizens. I don't agree that your "monthly invoice" penalty/tax buys you additional coverage or solves anything. If cops aren't available, then it's an empty bill of sale, notwithstanding that SCOTUS rules that cops have no obligation to protect the public.

    There have been times when our colonial governments and new federal government mandated ownership of a military grade firearm with reporting to militia muster for inspection and registration.

    The Nelson, GA proposal seems to be a strong suggestion rather than a good law. But while it's strange in modern society, it has historic roots in our American heritage.
    Mandatory purchase of health insurance is clearly unconstitutional. I think mandatory gun purchases would be also, but at least a gun is a tangible asset. Insurance has no value at all.

    I suppose I could support a state or local level militia that provides arms to its members. Mandatory militia membership appears the be the real question.

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    Well, a congress that included several Founders apparently thought they could compel people to purchase health care/insurance, as they passed two laws doing so (maritime sailors) and Washington signed the first. Washington also signed a law requiring able bodied men to own a firearm. Probably not constitutional to us but the framers thought it was.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stanislaskasava View Post
    Mandatory purchase of health insurance is clearly unconstitutional. I think mandatory gun purchases would be also, but at least a gun is a tangible asset. Insurance has no value at all.

    I suppose I could support a state or local level militia that provides arms to its members. Mandatory militia membership appears the be the real question.
    Well, my answer is that I'm against the draft.
    And I think for what the town of Nelson did, they might as well have taken a poll in the local paper (if they have one) or at the general meeting place and posted the results on a sign on the main drag: Firearm ownership in Nelson today: 90%. That would've scared the burglars as much as the law. But then, that might not have gotten as much attention from the media.
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    when the intervention of society... may be too late to prevent an injury.
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    The difference between mandatory insurance and mandatory gun ownership is forced taxes to provide for the required product.

    If the government says you HAVE to have insurance, and we're going to tax you all to provide our specific insurance, there's a problem.

    If the government says you HAVE to have a gun, we're not really going to enforce it, per se, there won't be any tax increase, and you can buy whatever gun you like; then I can't complain too much.

    I do agree that the government forcing the people to do anything is wrong, but something like this sends a great message - not just politically, but to criminals as well.
    And, there's a big difference between FEDERALLY forced insurance and LOCALLY forced gun ownership.
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