27 yrs. ago today......The Miami Shoot Out.

27 yrs. ago today......The Miami Shoot Out.

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    27 yrs. ago today......The Miami Shoot Out.

    "On April 11, 1986 at 0945 hours, an incident occurred that would ultimately turn law enforcement on its head. About an hour earlier, a group of FBI agents initiated a rolling stakeout in search of two robbery and homicide suspects. A vehicle stolen from a shooting victim had been identified. The suspect vehicle was located and a felony stop was initiated. During the stop, the suspect vehicle was forced off the road. The two suspects emerged from their vehicles and opened fire with a shotgun, .223 caliber rifle, and two .357 caliber revolvers. The ensuing gun battle resulted in the deaths of the two suspects as well as two FBI agents. Five other agents were wounded in the battle. The tactics employed, weapons used, and physical and physiological reactions of those involved sparked huge changes in the law enforcement world."


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    The full report and summary conclusions should be required reading for anyone who carries a gun.
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    I have personally seen the uncut video of this tragedy. My ex-wife's cousin worked and retired from the FBI in Miami-Dade and knew everyone of the agents and still has the film.
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    Much was learned. Much was lost.

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    I have a copy of the video form the re-enactment of the chase and shootout. Lots to learn from it and so sorry for the losses, but lessons well learned from it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tzed250 View Post
    Much was learned. Much was lost.
    Two FBI agents, and many illusions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xXxplosive View Post
    "On April 11, 1986 at 0945 hours, an incident occurred that would ultimately turn law enforcement on its head. About an hour earlier, a group of FBI agents initiated a rolling stakeout in search of two robbery and homicide suspects. A vehicle stolen from a shooting victim had been identified. The suspect vehicle was located and a felony stop was initiated. During the stop, the suspect vehicle was forced off the road. The two suspects emerged from their vehicles and opened fire with a shotgun, .223 caliber rifle, and two .357 caliber revolvers. The ensuing gun battle resulted in the deaths of the two suspects as well as two FBI agents. Five other agents were wounded in the battle. The tactics employed, weapons used, and physical and physiological reactions of those involved sparked huge changes in the law enforcement world."
    Thanks for reminding us of this day. We all know the lessons, but often fail to remember how they came to pass.

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    ummmm my post showed up on the wrong thread lol. that was strange.

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    I have read much about this encounter. Many mistakes made. Never underestimate your enemy.
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    I just watched the video on YouTube.
    Wow.
    I am speechless.
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    This event gave birth to the 10mm Kurz! Most LEOs carry the round as it is known as the .40 S&W!

    Also give us the story that the FBI were not skilled enough to handle the recoil from a full load 10mm so they developed the lighter load of the .40 S&W! That is always good enough to start a girly man debate!
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    Did this incident cause the 1986 automatic weapons law?

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