Who would benefit if crime went down

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    Who would benefit if crime went down

    I'm probably opening myself up for a beating but.....

    There have been lots of threads around states with fewer gun laws have fewer gun related crimes and possibly other types of crimes also. But does the government (at most levels) really want crime to decrease? Look how many people profit / make their livings based on there being crimes.
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    In answer to your question, the victims.
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    I should have stated not including the victim.
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    Future victims. Everybody has potential of being a future crime victim. Crime is not a good thing period. With less gun laws controlling future victims it would decrease crime rate. It would just be better for everyone.
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    If crime rates dropped, all of society would benefit. It costs a lot of money to to maintain prisons and courts. Some money could possibly be saved with fewer inmates and court expenses, which would (hopefully) result in lower taxes for everyone who pays them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgiaDawg View Post
    If crime rates dropped, all of society would benefit. It costs a lot of money to to maintain prisons and courts. Some money could possibly be saved with fewer inmates and court expenses, which would (hopefully) result in lower taxes for everyone who pays them.
    But then, unemployment in many sectors of the economy would go up. Crime is very good for many businesses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike1956 View Post
    But then, unemployment in many sectors of the economy would go up. Crime is very good for many businesses.
    Quite possible. But on the other hand, perhaps more criminals would be able to find gainful employment if they didn't have a criminal past. Maybe some of them would be inclined to start their own lawful businesses which would reduce unemployment. Hard to speculate on such a thing since it could really go either way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike1956 View Post
    In answer to your question, the victims.
    I thought that was a trick question also
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    And I said, “Here am I. Send me!”

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    Interesting....
    I remember reading that many of the prisons gaurantee 90% occupancy...
    A simple google search turned up a number of hits easily.
    Here are just the first two....

    Top Stories - Private Prison Company to Demand 90% Occupancy - AllGov - News

    Private purchasing of prisons locks in occupancy rates ? USATODAY.com

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    Maybe a better question is who benefits from high crime.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stevew View Post
    Maybe a better question is who benefits from high crime.
    The government? Gives them an excuse to take and wield more power to keep the people safe. Gives an excuse to raise taxes, too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stevew View Post
    Maybe a better question is who benefits from high crime.
    Everyone except taxpayers and victims.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stevew View Post
    Maybe a better question is who benefits from high crime.
    I think you are right.
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    Hmmm, politicians make their living by defining major problems that need their tender considerations.

    BUT, politicians make CAREERS out of not solving problems and thereby implying to the voters "See how difficult this is to solve? That is why you really, really need us!"

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