What The DHS Wants to Use To Desensitize Their Agents

What The DHS Wants to Use To Desensitize Their Agents

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    What The DHS Wants to Use To Desensitize Their Agents

    After reading about the thread on the Zombie mannequin (Now Closed). I wonder if that person would also find these REAL lifelike targets as distressing.

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    No, because they are being used by the Govt for training...and anything the Govt does is OK with libtards.
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    You have been able to get photo targets like that for over twenty years in the Washington D.C. area. Some of my former coworkers posed for the pictures. These are nothing new.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kennydale View Post
    After reading about the thread on the Zombie mannequin (Now Closed). I wonder if that person would also find these REAL lifelike targets as distressing.

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    Works for me. Remember this one? (caution, adult language and violence):
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    I can tell you the Military had a very steep learning curve in VietNam. I was there for two tours and many servicemen paid a price for not understanding that women and children can kill you.

    A threat of a gun pointed at you nullifies any age,sex,ethnic background and puts you in the target category. Just my thoughts.
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    Got no problem with training them to ignore the obvious shooter condition and focusing on the weapon.
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    It's to stop deadly hesitation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kennydale View Post
    After reading about the thread on the Zombie mannequin (Now Closed). I wonder if that person would also find these REAL lifelike targets as distressing.

    targets2_16x9.jpg

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    Oh my gosh, I am so outraged about this...how could anyone possibly think that a child or a pregnant woman could ever point a gun at you if they weren't wearing their NRA hats and clinging to their Bibles!
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    Quote Originally Posted by manolito View Post
    I can tell you the Military had a very steep learning curve in VietNam. I was there for two tours and many servicemen paid a price for not understanding that women and children can kill you.

    A threat of a gun pointed at you nullifies any age,sex,ethnic background and puts you in the target category. Just my thoughts.
    The VC specifically used women and children against us because they tended to emotionally "disarm" us into complacency, not expecting them to be combatants. Many of our men died before we learned that lesson.
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    When its a threat it really dosent matter who it is. Its a threat, and will be treated a such. I do not have a problem with those targets....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Harryball View Post
    When its a threat it really dosent matter who it is. Its a threat, and will be treated a such. I do not have a problem with those targets....
    That's the bottom line. It's the gun that makes them a threat, not who is holding it.
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    On the issue of desensitizing, personally I don't believe a photograph will do it as the person practicing already knows it is just a piece of paper. Not to be gross or sound cruel, if you need to train someone to fire at a live person, a starting place would be live animals, goats, dogs; anything the person being trained will know full well is living. And even then, it won't work well as they will also know these are not human beings.

    [sarcasm] So, I have a modest proposal. Put the Cleveland Kidnapper in a field and tell him to run.

    Even that won't work. The shooter will know he isn't human. [/sarcasm]
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    Actually the first time i was on a range they offered me a Zombie Target.....


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    Well to be honest, to get the most effect out of those types of targets, they need to be presented to the shooter in a "pop up" fashion. Kind of like the FBI's Hogan's Alley type set up. Just putting them up in a static target stand has little effect on a persons speed of recognizing the threat. It has to be used in a surprise or startle scenario.

    I have no issues with using life like and realistic targets. I buy them myself all the time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hopyard View Post
    On the issue of desensitizing, personally I don't believe a photograph will do it as the person practicing already knows it is just a piece of paper. Not to be gross or sound cruel, if you need to train someone to fire at a live person, a starting place would be live animals, goats, dogs; anything the person being trained will know full well is living. And even then, it won't work well as they will also know these are not human beings.

    [sarcasm] So, I have a modest proposal. Put the Cleveland Kidnapper in a field and tell him to run.

    Even that won't work. The shooter will know he isn't human. [/sarcasm]
    Hopy, I think you have touched upon a greater subject than just targets. We are so far removed from the respect of gathering our own food and the sense of life and death associated with it. It should be a topic, in and of itself....
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