May 23rd, 2013 04:11 PM
Traveling with guns - See question in thread
I am inheriting some guns from my deceased grandfather this fall. The guns are currently in California (in my parents possession) and will be coming back with me to Virginia.
From what I recall, here are the following guns:
-p38 (No Case)
-Small German WW2 Hand Gun (No Case)
-Mauser Broom Handle (No Case)
-Browning 30-06 bolt action with scope (20+ year old case)
-Browning Shotgun (20+ year old case)
The only thing I am concerned about is getting them safely from Cali to NoVa.
I will be traveling Southwest Airlines, if that matters at all.
I need recommendations on how you all suggest I get the guns back to me. I know I can ship them via FFL, but that is going to cost possibly an arm and a leg.
The other thought that I had was to purchase two largeish cases and divide the guns up evenly between them, and take the cased guns out of their very old cases.
Does anyone here know if the TSA allows multiple guns in the same case, or does each gun have to be in its own case?
I am trying to make this as inexpensive and headache free as possible.
I can provide more details as needed.
Thank you all in advance for your time.
May 23rd, 2013 05:51 PM
Check both TSA and SW Airlines websites for specific info, then print a copy of both for the airport people who may not be aware of the regs (It happens). To my knowledge there is no "limit" on number of guns in a case but check current rules. Keep a list of guns & S/Ns in your wallet. Any ammo must be separate and in the original box or something designed for ammo (such as the plastic ammo boxes).
As far as shipping thru a FFL, check around. Some may have special consideration for "bulk" shipments.
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May 23rd, 2013 05:56 PM
What OldVet said. The Airline's rules are the authority.
Make sure your cases really close and really lock. Cheap plastic cases that can be pried open on one end even though locked will not be accepted. Metal cases are best. Would recommend that you avoid BWI in Md.
May 23rd, 2013 06:08 PM
If you are flying out of LAX or SFO be sure to check the local statutes. The TSA and airline may be good with checking your firearms but when you declare them you don't want local LE to get a call and show up to slap on the cuffs!
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May 23rd, 2013 06:25 PM
Firearms and Ammunition
Traveling with Special Items
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Travelers may only transport UNLOADED firearms in a locked, hard-sided container in or as checked baggage. All firearms, ammunition and firearm parts, including firearm frames and receivers, are prohibited in carry-on baggage.
Realistic replicas of firearms are also prohibited in carry-on bags and must be packed in checked baggage. Rifle scopes are permitted in carry-on and checked bags.
In addition to TSA security rules on transporting firearms, airlines, as well as state, local and international governments have additional rules that may vary by location. Please check with your airline and with states and cities you will be traveling into and out of to become familiar with their requirements and ensure you are compliant with their laws.
Law Enforcement Officers: There are certain limited exceptions for law enforcement officers who may fly armed by meeting the requirements of Title 49 CFR § 1544.219. Please read our policies for law enforcement officers traveling with firearms.
To avoid issues that could impact your travel and/or result in law enforcement action, here are some guidelines to assist you in packing your firearms and ammunition:
All firearms must be declared to the airline during the ticket counter check-in process.
The term firearm includes:
Any weapon (including a starter gun) which will, or is designed to, or may readily be converted to expel a projectile by the action of an explosive.
The frame or receiver of any such weapon.
Any firearm muffler or firearm silencer.
Any destructive device.
*Please see, for instance, United States Code, Title 18, Part 1, Chapter 44 for information about firearm definitions.
The firearm must be unloaded.
The firearm must be in a hard-sided container that is locked. A locked container is defined as one that completely secures the firearm from being accessed. Locked cases that can be pulled open with little effort cannot be brought aboard the aircraft.
If firearms are not properly declared or packaged, TSA will provide the checked bag to law enforcement for resolution with the airline. If the issue is resolved, law enforcement will release the bag to TSA so screening may be completed.
TSA must resolve all alarms in checked baggage. If a locked container containing a firearm alarms, TSA will contact the airline, who will make a reasonable attempt to contact the owner and advise the passenger to go to the screening location. If contact is not made, the container will not be placed on the aircraft.
If a locked container alarms during screening and is not marked as containing a declared firearm, TSA will cut the lock in order to resolve the alarm.
Travelers should remain in the area designated by the aircraft operator or TSA representative to take the key back after the container is cleared for transportation.
Travelers must securely pack any ammunition in fiber (such as cardboard), wood or metal boxes or other packaging specifically designed to carry small amounts of ammunition.
Firearm magazines and ammunition clips must be securely boxed or included within a hard-sided case containing an unloaded firearm.
Small arms ammunition, including ammunition not exceeding .75 caliber for a rifle or pistol and shotgun shells of any gauge, may be carried in the same hard-sided case as the firearm, as long as it follows the packing guidelines described above.
TSA prohibits black powder or percussion caps used with black-powder.
Rifle scopes are not prohibited in carry-on bags and do not need to be in the hard-sided, locked checked bag.
Guns and Firearms
Item Carry-on Checked
Small arms ammunition, including ammunition up to .75 caliber and shotgun shells of any gauge- Check with your airline or travel agent to see if ammunition is permitted in checked baggage on the airline you are flying. Small arms ammunitions for personal use must be securely packaged in fiber, wood or metal boxes or other packaging specifically designed to carry small amounts of ammunition. Ask about limitations or fees, if any, that apply. No Yes
NOTE: Check with your airline or travel agent to see if firearms are permitted in checked baggage on the airline you are flying. Ask about limitations or fees, if any, that apply.
*Permitted in checked baggage only if it does not contain lighter fluid.
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