May 23rd, 2013 10:21 PM
.22 trail carry gun
I'm in the market for a .22 or .22 MAG revolver that I can carry IWB or OWB while hiking, biking, etc. so I guess my first question is .22 or .22 MAG? What's everyone's opinions on .22/.22 MAG revolvers on the market? I'm looking for a snub but might be willing to consider a 3" barrel. My budget is sitting at $450 right now but I'm definitely willing to spend a bit more for something that will be reliable and last.
I had the chance to handle an LCR at the local lgs the other day, and I loved everything but the trigger! Of course the guy at the counter says he's a ruger guy and he guarantees it will smooth out after some use. But he also was recommending .22 MAG as a good defensive round against anything up to and including cougar. Needless to say I took his opinion with a grain or ten of salt. However the LCR was a nice little package and was sitting at $399.
May 23rd, 2013 10:36 PM
A cougar is a light skinned animal, pretty easy to kill, and a 22 mag would do the job, however not fast enough for my liking.
A good 38spl would be more to my liking.
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May 23rd, 2013 10:38 PM
.22 mag against a cougar? I'll believe that when I see it.
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May 24th, 2013 07:15 PM
I use a Ruger Super Single Six for my roaming in the woods gun. It has a 5/12" bbl and I normally use the .22 mag cyclinder. It makes a great trail gun but would probably not be ideal for IWB carry.
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May 24th, 2013 08:08 PM
i was with you on this until i saw my great grandfather kill a black bear with a 22. but that was with plenty of setup and time to properly aim and all. in a defensive scenario against wild animals attacking i probably would go alittle larger
Originally Posted by pittypat21
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May 24th, 2013 08:43 PM
...to me, trail gun means snake...cougar means at least .357...they are tough...
...for a trail gun, I'd hunt for a 4" or 6" High Standard Sentinel Deluxe...an old 9-shot .22 S,L, LR revolver...the one I taught myself to shoot with...reliable...accurate...$175-250 used with a generation or two of life left in them...the Double-Nine had a cowboy grip but was also double action...also made for Sears...that'd leave you a good chunk of $$ for ammo to become deadly accurate with it...
Originally Posted by sigma
May 24th, 2013 10:29 PM
These can be had at a little over your price.
Ruger® New Bearcat® Single-Action Revolver Models
Ruger® New Model Single-Six® Convertible Single-Action Revolver Models
and this one quite a bit below.
Blue Finish - Heritage Manufacturing Inc
the Heritages are quite a bit lighter, I believe 7 or 8oz lighter. that only makes a big difference while on a long hike.
Both of these have been in my family since new. The Ruger in 1962, and the Heritage in 1978. Both have given good service, and both have been refinished. Both shoot equally well and are convertible to 22mag. Good Luck. DR
May 24th, 2013 10:51 PM
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May 25th, 2013 08:57 AM
I know you said revolver but being practical, Glock 20C or 29C (rare but they do exist) is much more sensible. Normally when we are talking about SD guns/ammo we want what stops the threat, in a woods gun against a rampaging predator we need devastating firepower, 10mm can be as heavy as 220 hard cast and can stop a grizzly.
May 25th, 2013 10:08 AM
I just switched to a G20 with 220gr buffalo bores for my woods gun from a Ruger SP101 4.20" .357 with 180gr buffalo bores just for a little more power and capacity. Without derailing the thread too much, the LCR package is pretty decent, either in the .357, or .38 only. If you get one in .22, I don't think you'll be unhappy with it.
Originally Posted by MJB_17
May 25th, 2013 10:34 AM
I almost always have my single six with a mag cylinder with me when I hike (in the pack, but accessable), but my primary hiking pistol is a Ruger Vaquero in .357.
Originally Posted by 5lima30ret
May 25th, 2013 11:49 AM
Sorry, but I have to LMAO every time I see someone worrying about defending themselves from a cougar. From a previously researched post:
"Wonder if these guys realize that while walking in the woods, they're about:
three times more likely to be killed by a spider,
seven times more likely to be killed by a snake,
fifteen times more likely to be killed by a dog,
26 times more likely to be killed by bee stings and
150 times more likely to be killed by a mosquito bite,
than by a bear?"
Now, considering that you're about eight times more likely to be killed by a bear than by a cougar:
24 times more likely to be killed by a spider,
56 times more likely to be killed by a snake,
120 times more likely to be killed by a dog,
208 times more likely to be killed by bee stings and
1200 times more likely to be killed by a mosquito bite,
than by a cougar.
Hey, I pack a gun in the woods, too, but it's mostly for fun. Getting attacked by a wild animal (with the possible exception of a snake or a pack of dogs), is the least of my worries.
Your can of Deep Woods Off is statistically over 1000 times more likely to save your life!
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May 25th, 2013 12:50 PM
Then there's the "other" type of cougar you need to defend against, but you usually don't run into them on the trails.
Getting past the caliber debate and back to the OP's question, you have a decent range from which to choose. Charter Arms, Taurus and Smith & Wesson all make double-action revolvers in .22 magnum. S&W gets a little pricey, and Taurus has erratic quality (although I must own the 3 most reliable Tauri in the world). That leaves Charter Arms. Not finely finished, but the current crop gets good reviews and they seem pretty robust as well as affordable.
If single action floats your boat, then the Ruger Single Six with the LR and mag cylinders is a great way to go. I like mine and I shoot it well, but I just can't get used to the grip on that gun, and having to curl my pinky finger under the bottom of the grip.
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May 25th, 2013 01:26 PM
I guess to clarify what I see the purpose of a trail gun to be...
1.dealing with snakes along the trail
2.around here dealing with animals along the lines of rabid fox, raccoon (had first hand experience with this one, not fun at all) and possibly the occasional coyote that needs to back off a bit.
3. Have the potential to be a meat getter if you get lost or stranded, realistically meaning small game such as rabbit, squirrel, etc.
Those are the main requirements I see for a trail gun. If I'm headed for bear country I'm bringing bear mace, and if I'm camping for a while I'm probably bringing the 12gauge with 00 buck and slugs.
Seems like a lot of suggestions are leaning towards SA, are the SA,DA offerings out there not up to par? I've been keeping my eye out for a charter arms pathfinder with the .22 and .22mag cylinders but havent had any luck. That ruger lcr in .22mag stares me down every time I walk into the local tri state, the only reason it hasn't come home with me is I don't have and have yet to see any .22mag on the shelves. I'm not going to buy a brand new gun and not be able to at least go put 50rnds through it!
May 25th, 2013 04:38 PM
Originally Posted by sigma
With that clarification I would really suggest either a Ruger Single six convertible (then you can shoot either .22 or .22 mag) or one of my personal favorites, the Ruger SP101 .22. Personally I think the sight radius on the LCR would make it to difficult to shoot small game at any distance past a few yards.
There are certainly more affordable options out there, but I'm partial to Ruger.
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