Black Rifle in .308 or .223?

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    Black Rifle in .308 or .223?

    I'm thinking of buying a black rifle but I don't know whether to get it chambered in .223 or .308? This is just to have in the safe in case SHTF. What are the pros/cons of each.
    I don't always carry two concealed S&W 500's.........JUST KIDDING!

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    Neither.

    5.56mm. (Assuming AR15 platform)

    Less weight than .308 means more ammo or lighter load when carrying, and can still shoot .223 if you can't find 5.56 ammo. Extremely common components mean finding parts will be easier than other systems.
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    +1 for what AlexC posted. Get it in 5.56, then you can shoot either .223, or 5.56.

    Hes also right about commonality of parts.

    Some good ARs:

    Spikes
    Daniels Defense
    Colt
    Bravo Company
    S&W also has a good rep in make it thru high round count training.

    This is just my opinion, but I think Palmetto State Armory is a real up & comer among the AR makers. They seem to make a well turned out product, at a very attractive price.

    I dont have one of their ARs, but do have one of their full auto BCGs, and it seems darn good quality, to me.

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    I agree with the previous statements. IMHO, your first black rifle should be in 5.56/.223 for the reasons stated above. If you think a .308 is still necessary for your arsenal, make that a secondary purchase.

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    7,62mmx51mm. Cons are ammo is expensive. Pro's are you'll need less and get more done.

    Most 7.62mm rifles are sturdy, robust, and practically indestructable. Con's are they are heavier.

    Effective range is much greater for a 7,62mm rifle, no con's to that.

    It really comes down to what you are going to use this rifle for.

    Folding or collapsable stock 7,62mm rifles are fairly manueverable for home defence, but that round will go a long ways. They aren't much lighter either, and is some cases even heavier than a fixed stock model of the same rifle.

    You can take medium- to medium large size game with the 7,62mm.
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    Everyone should own a Good 308, and a good AR. Fill two different rolls you must decide witch to fill first.
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    A 20mm Solithurn Anti Tank Rifle like Henry Bowman uses is the only way to go.

    Fill the uber large role...
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    With 5.56 or .223 you'll be able to have much more ammo stored up and will be able to carry much more in your person as well. Of you needed to you'd be able to sell some while still having plenty for yourself.

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    Quote from "We Were Soldiers"

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    All good thoughts, I may just have to get both then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gav1230 View Post
    With 5.56 or .223 you'll be able to have much more ammo stored up and will be able to carry much more in your person as well. Of you needed to you'd be able to sell some while still having plenty for yourself.
    Yep, and you'll need every round of it.
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    If it's just to plink and to have on hand in case, go with a 556. I hunt with mine and own a .308 version for that reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NONAME762 View Post
    A 20mm Solithurn Anti Tank Rifle like Henry Bowman uses is the only way to go.

    Fill the uber large role...
    Great read! The author was my CCW instructor; in return for purchasing an autographed copy of his book he let me run through a stick with his M27A1 Thompson. What a hoot!
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    The benefit of a BCM, Colt, Larue, or DD AR15 is you've got a weapon that is fit to go to war with (Can't really say the same about the lesser manufacturers), on a platform that offers a frankly ridiculous amount of customization in a light, easy to disassemble and reliable package. The AR-15 is an outstanding jack-of-all-trades weapon.


    I do have a soft spot for battle rifles, however, and you couldn't go wrong with an SA-58 or PTR-91 for a serious SHTF gun if you don't mind shooting dollar bills.

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    Glad I stocked up years ago when it was cheap.
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