What a difference 2 pounds makes!

What a difference 2 pounds makes!

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    What a difference 2 pounds makes!

    My AR has never really been pimped out to the extent that a lot of AR's I have seen are. My first one was... But when I built my mil spec, all purpose, HD, SHTF, range rifle I had one thing in mind. Weight! I wanted to make it as light as possible. I went with the Magpul forend instead of a fancy quad rail. The only thing I put on it was a Protac light and a Primary Arms micro red dot. With a loaded mag it weighed in right around 8 pounds. At 8 pounds I thought it was incredibly light and handy. Then Primary Arms released their brand new 1x6 scope...

    I really like Primary Arms stuff. They make a good budget optic that is a couple steps above on the quality scale when compared to other budget stuff. It's well built and affordable and offers the average joe shooter a decent quality optic that inst garbage at a price that doesn't break the bank. I waited almost 4 months for them to release their 1x6 scope. Their 1x4 got pretty good reviews so I figured the 1x6 would be equally as good. I was not disappointed. The scope was 250.00 + another 100 or so for a Burris pepper QD scope mount. I will be doing a review in the next week or two.

    I really like the setup. The reason I was drawn to the 1x6 is that it offers a lot of flexibility. The thing I was most surprised at though was the weight! Between the scope and the mount the setup weighs in around 2 pounds and boy does it make a difference! At 8 pounds (with the red dot) the rifle feels featherweight but at 10 pounds with the 1x6 and mount it feels like a cinder block with a magpul stock! Seriously, I couldn't believe the difference! I really like the scope and the wide range of capability that it gives me but I cant believe the difference that 2 pounds makes on a rifle...
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    Two pounds is a serious jump up in weight percentage wise.

    That is what drew me to the Leupold Mark AR 1.5-4, still a lot of versatility, but it comes in at 10-11 ounces for the illuminated SPR reticle model. I picked one up the other week for $400, plus $60 for a weaver mount that is lighter weight than the P.E.P.R. A bit pricier, but IMO the weight savings are worth it. I have also generally moved away from quad rails for weight reasons.
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    I remember how heavy that dummy m16 was compared to real, and it was only 1.x overweight, 2 lbs is a lot!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RockinRiley View Post
    I remember how heavy that dummy m16 was compared to real, and it was only 1.x overweight, 2 lbs is a lot!
    Dummy M-16s also have their balance thrown all off since all of the weight is in the barrel.
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    My Galil with a fully stoked 50 round magazine, optics mount, and an AimPoint is 12 + Pounds - Stop Complaining.
    I need to eat some spinach right out of the can before I lug it around all day.
    But, I love it anyway.
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    Just get a 5 foot high Bipod on wheels,you won't hardly feel like your holding a gun
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    I built this rifle as a dedicated squirrel rifle. Mostly shot from a bench. With this barrel I can shoot long strings without overheating the barrel. But with its barrel and scope I wouldnt want to carry it more than just a couple of miles. just a thought, Could you cut weight by shortening the barrel? or are you already as short as you can go?



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    Forget the rifle weight. Take two pounds off your waist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by QKShooter View Post
    My Galil with a fully stoked 50 round magazine, optics mount, and an AimPoint is 12 + Pounds - Stop Complaining.
    I need to eat some spinach right out of the can before I lug it around all day.
    But, I love it anyway.
    Squad automatics usually weigh more don't they?
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    Weight? What's that? Try humping this bad boy for a few hours.

    33" X 1-1/8" Douglas .54 caliber barrel. Weight :10 lbs. 3 oz., 200 yard M.O.A groups, with proper handloads.

    Rate of fire is somewhat slow, however, half of a brick at subsonic velocities is extremely devastating.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldVet View Post
    Forget the rifle weight. Take two pounds off your waist.
    I don't have two pounds to loose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rollo View Post
    I don't have two pounds to loose.

    Perhaps put two pounds of muscle on then

    My go to rifle is mini 30 at 6.75 pounds unloaded, make it 7 pounds even with the eotech on it. Light, fast, quick handling and 30 cal punch which I prefer over any 223/556 for go to needs.
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    I "pimped" my AR out once upon a time. All it took was one afternoon of hard training in the brutal Texas summer for me to reconsidor. After training I went home and put all the lightweight stock parts back on and have not looked back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AzQkr View Post
    Squad automatics usually weigh more don't they?
    Depends on the variant, but somewhere between 18-23 pounds unloaded IIRC.

    My M-16A4 with M-203, Acog, leaf sight and Peq-15 was somewhere around 14-15. More with fancy infrared sights.
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    I built this rifle as a dedicated squirrel rifle.

    Which eye do you prefer hitting them in....the right or the left?

    Nice tackdriver.
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