And there are no scammers on the internet.
This is a discussion on Armslist and mugshots within the General Firearm Discussion forums, part of the Related Topics category; I put a firearm on the above website and figured I'd be cautious with any responses I got. I was very clear about the procedure ...
I put a firearm on the above website and figured I'd be cautious with any responses I got. I was very clear about the procedure to be followed (legal and straight up) as well as the logistics of a meet with a buyer. I got a hit on the ad through an email that read a little funny. The email address showed an apparent first and last name. In the email the guy said his name was Scott. That didn't match either of the names on the email address. A quick google search and there's his mugshot with Scott as his middle name. His arrests include a concealed weapon without a permit in 2012. I wonder how he's walking free now? If it were me, I'd be locked up on some island or at the bottom of a well.
Ah well. I guess I'll take take the ad down, take the hit and just trade it for my 44 and move on. Be careful out there. Use that inter webz thingy and do your research. And remember.....nobody is collecting digital information on you. Our leaders wouldn't do that.
What if the Hokey Pokey IS what it's all about?
And there are no scammers on the internet.
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I wouldn't take the ad down, I think you did a great job ferreting out the problems with that particular buyer. Leave it up, continue to be diligent and don't sell it to anyone that gives you the creeps.
What are you trying to sell?
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I've done exactly one deal from an ad on Armslist, as a buyer. The guy I dealt with was legit and everything was handled in a nice, safe manner. I've sold other things via Craigslist and received many, many scammer replies. Forums are good places to list firearms too. Are there any NC firearms forums that you could use? Many include peer ratings for transactions. I've done one deal that way too and it was just fine.
I've made several deals on Armslist, mainly as seller.
The first thing I would recommend is that you set up an e-mail account solely for Armslist.--gmail, yahoo, etc.
I require a buyer to have a MN carry permit or MN permit to purchase in order to buy. I also will walk away in a heartbeat if something feels wrong...and one of my rules is "never sell a gun after dark"--although it can be difficult to get a time set up in these short winter days.
I've also met buyers at gun shops and had the transfer done there--usually because the buyer prefers it, but once the seller required it. However, if you require that, you should pick up the transfer fee, or at least split it.
So, I would just keep the listing, tell that original "buyer" no.
Or, take the beating at a dealer; your choice.
There are no dangerous weapons; there are only dangerous men.--RAH
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I certainly wouldn't take the ad down because of one questionable respondent. I say leave it up and keep doing what you're doing. If somebody of integrity wants it, they'll be more than happy to follow the procedures you listed and pass the smell test. Don't be so quick to throw in the towel and take a loss.
"Rebellion against tyrants is obedience to God." - Benjamin Franklin
"Experience: that most brutal of teachers. But you learn, my God do you learn." - C.S. Lewis
One thing you can do is require to see an active CCW permit for your state. It lowers the target audience some, but ensures that it's a legal owner you're selling to.
I sure wouldn't let one "problem" inquiry cause you to pull the ad.
BTW, I'm not a lawyer and I don't play one on TV, but if you're selling a handgun, you probably ought to be aware of the following:
Under North Carolina law, it is unlawful for any person, firm, or corporation to sell, give away, transfer, purchase, or receive, at any place in the state, any pistol, unless the purchaser or receiver has first obtained a license or permit to receive such a pistol by the sheriff of the county where the purchaser or receiver resides, or the purchaser or receiver possesses a valid North Carolina issued concealed carry permit. This requirement to obtain a permit prior to the transfer of a pistol applies not only to a commercial transaction typically at a sporting goods store but also between private individuals or companies throughout North Carolina. - N.C. Gen. Stat. § 14-402(a).
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I don't use Armslist but I do use Gunbroker a good bit
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I tried to sell a gun on there once.. but gave up because people are sketchy.. stick with gunbroker.com
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Funny that I too put my first listing on Armslist for Virginia. Got an immediate bite and to make a long story short the guy back tracked on his name, would never confirm he was a Virginia resident and stated he would sign a bill of sale but didn't want to 'do a transfer'. Ended up setting a time/place in a public location and arranging some 'back-up' but it ended up being such a crap weather day and my little voice just told me not to do it. I waived him off via email (never gave me his phone #) and never heard a peep since.
My one on line transaction was buying one gun on gunbroker.com and I was so nervous about the idea of sending a whole bunch of money to someone I didn't know that it took several forum members here to keep me assured that all would be well.
And it was.
Getting old was not on my list of "things to do" in the Golden Years!
Talking to each other here is good, but taking action is better.
I've made two good purchases on Gunsamerica.com Very happy thus far. Armslist , not so much. Found a nice 9 mm Commander earlier in the year , the seller was not overly cooperative . I faxed him the FFL and payment confirmation, including of photo of me with 8 $100.00 bills in hand, about twenty bucks more than he asked for (Gun, FFL fees and shipping, I tossed in the extra $20.00 in case) Long story short, he backed out, never returned a call. .Xin loi, his loss .