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    Home intruder shot.

    http://www.startribune.com/467/story/873285.html

    Home intruder killed in Rockford, sheriff says
    A man was shot to death early Wednesday morning at a home in Rockford, reported the Wright County sheriff's office.
    By Jim Adams, Star Tribune

    Police find a still in a Maplewood apartment
    A man was shot to death early Wednesday morning at a home in Rockford, the Wright County sheriff's office reported.
    A sheriff's release said deputies were called about 3:30 a.m. to a shooting in the 8800 block of Walnut Place. A man had broken into the home of Samantha E. Simons, 21, and was shot by a friend of hers, Eric M. Cegon, 30, of Rockford. She knew the intruder, whose identity deputies were trying to verify.

    Investigators were trying to determine if the shooting was justified by self-defense concerns, said Lt. Greg Howell. He couldn't provide any other details.


    This is the second instance in about 2 weeks where a homeowner killed an intruder. We don't know any details about this one yet so don't want to jump to any conclusions but there is way to many of these happening these days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by havegunjoe
    A man had broken into the home of Samantha E. Simons, 21, and was shot by a friend of hers... Investigators were trying to determine if the shooting was justified by self-defense concerns...
    Hmmm. Now, this makes me wonder. Here in Colorado we have a "castle doctrine" law that basically says, if someone breaks into your house that is prima facie evidence that they intend to do you harm, and you are therefore justified in using lethal force in self defense. So, if someone breaks into your house, and you shoot them, there won't be an investigation into whether the shooting is justified, because by clear definition of the law it is.

    Lots of states have similar "castle doctrine" laws.

    But in this case it wasn't the homeowner who shot the intruder. So, does that make a difference? I mean, I know that morally speaking it doesn't; an intruder is an intruder. Legally speaking, though, would the "castle doctrine" not apply in this case to the friend, because it's not his castle!?! I don't really know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by denverd0n View Post
    But in this case it wasn't the homeowner who shot the intruder. So, does that make a difference? I mean, I know that morally speaking it doesn't; an intruder is an intruder. Legally speaking, though, would the "castle doctrine" not apply in this case to the friend, because it's not his castle!?! I don't really know.
    Most states also have defense of 3rd party laws, that basically say you can use whatever force the 3rd party would be justified in using. So, if the homeowner would have been justified in shooting an invader, so would the friend.

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    It seems a lot of the home invasions around here are drug related (Meth) in some fashion. It'd be interesting to see what the impetus is statistically around the country, if that could ever be determined.

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    According To The Article...

    the intruder was breaking in to his x's place, in violation of a 'release order'...case closed in my book....

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    Quote Originally Posted by retsupt99 View Post
    the intruder was breaking in to his x's place, in violation of a 'release order'...case closed in my book....

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    Bingo! Good shoot for sure and one less BG to worry about. They both would have been dead if they had not.
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    Here is an interesting update:

    http://www.startribune.com/467/story/875873.html


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    Man who killed intruder 'may well have been justified' in shooting
    A 30-year-old Rockford man "may have been very well justified" when he shot to death his girlfriend's former boyfriend after the armed intruder entered her home overnight, the Wright County attorney said this morning.

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    BUFFALO, MINN. - A 30-year-old Rockford man "may have been very well justified" when he shot to death his girlfriend's former boyfriend after the armed intruder entered her home overnight, the Wright County attorney said this morning.
    Eric M. Cegon shot Erik A. Richter, 35, of Watertown twice with a shotgun before dawn Wednesday after Richter forced his way through a back door into Samantha E. Simons' Rockford home, County Attorney Thomas Kelly said.

    Richter had a loaded handgun when he tried to enter the doorway of the bedroom where Simons, 21, and Cegon and her 2-year-old son had been sleeping, Kelly said. Richter was the boy's father.

    Kelly said state law allows a person to defend himself or others in a home if the person believes there is a threat of great bodily harm or death. He said that Cegon was released pending completion of the investigation and an autopsy on Richter, who did not fire his handgun.

    "This is a classic domestic situation gone bad," Kelly said. "Cegon may have been very well justified in taking one's life. ... Richter had threatened Simons more than once [that he would] kill her boyfriend."

    Kelly said he was unaware of any drugs or alcohol being involved in Wednesday's altercation. He noted that Richter was sentenced to four years in prison on a methamphetamine conviction in 1998.

    Kelly also noted that Richter was charged in April 2005 with making terroristic threats against Simons. That case was dropped after she failed to appear for his trial, Kelly said.

    And a week before Richter was killed, he threatened Simons with a kitchen knife at her home and said he would kill Cegon, Kelly said.

    "He refused to let her go, and said that if he couldn't have her, nobody would," Kelly said.

    Richter had been charged in November with making terroristic threats against Cegon.

    The break-in violated conditions of Richter's release from jail on the terroristic threats charge. He was accused of threatening to kill Cegon on Nov. 4, when Simons was at the boyfriend's house in Rockford, said Lt. Todd Hoffman of the Wright County Sheriff's Office.

    About 4 a.m. that morning, Richter banged on the doors and windows at Cegon's house, yelled threats and broke windows of Cegon's car. He also allegedly sent e-mails threatening to kill Cegon.


    Jim Adams • 612-673-7658 • By JIM ADAMS jadams@startribune.com

    2006 Star Tribune. All rights reserved.

    This is so similar to a situation from a few months ago with one big exception. In the other situation the woman and her new boyfriend were killed. They had done everything the system required to no avail. The one missing thing that might have kept them alive was a gun for personal protection which apparently was not missing in this case. The result, victims live, BG is dead.
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    Man Won't Be Charged For Killing Girlfriend's Ex (MN)
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    Posted on 01/17/2007 2:57:34 PM PST by ButThreeLeftsDo

    The Wright County prosecutor has decided not to press charges against a Rockford, Minn. man who shot his girlfriend's former boyfriend in December.

    Eric M. Cegon, 30, shot 35-year-old Erik A. Richter, of Watertown, Minn., twice with a shotgun early in the morning of Dec. 13 when Richter broke in through a back door into the Rockford home of Samantha E. Simons, 21.

    According to Wright County Attorney Thomas Kelly, the relationship between Richter and Simons turned abusive, culminating with a charge of domestic assault filed in April 2005.

    When Simons began a relationship with Cegon in September 2006, Richter began threatening both of them.

    "He refused to let her go, and said that if he couldn't have her, nobody would," Kelly said.

    Richter was charged with making terroristic threats and inflicting criminal damage to property on Nov. 6 of last year after he broke all the windows on Cegon's vehicle and tried to climb through his bedroom window, yelling his intentions to kill Cegon.

    As a result of the incident, Richter was ordered to have no contact with either Simons or Cegon and was ordered to not possess or use firearms. Simons also applied for an additional restraining order against Richter.

    Richter violated the order when, according to Kelly, he allegedly threatened her with a knife on Dec. 6. Due to the incident, a pick-up order was placed for probable cause felony assault. A court date was set for Dec. 13.

    Cegon and Simons went to bed the evening of Dec. 12 prepared for a visit from Richter. They barricaded the front door of Simons' house with a small sofa, locked themselves with Simons' son in an upstairs bedroom and blocked the door with a dresser.

    Cegon armed himself with a shotgun.

    At 3:30 a.m., according to Kelly, Richter broke through the front door of the house and ran upstairs, forcing open the bedroom door and knocking down the dresser. He had in his hand a loaded, .45-caliber Colt semi-automatic handgun.

    Later investigation revealed Richter had also brought leg irons and handcuffs.

    Cegon shot Richter twice.

    According to Kelly, the state law allowing a person to defend himself with necessary deadly force in his home if he feels threatened by an intruder applied to Cegon's case.

    "Did Cegon have an honest and reasonable belief that he or Simons were in imminent jeopardy of great bodily harm or death? Yes," said Kelly in a press statement. "Was Cegon's use of deadly force necessary to avert great bodily harm or death? Yes.

    "In this case, the state has the burden to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that Cegon was not justified in using deadly force," he continued. "Based upon the facts, I am unable to meet that burden and therefore no criminal charges will be filed against Cegon."

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    I feel sorry for the little kid.
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    I have to wonder why in the hell there was any hesitation in determining that Cegon acted righteously in killing this criminal psychopath. The guy showed up with a loaded .45 and leg irons and handcuffs?! Surely the cops saw that stuff right away and took it into evidence on the scene. Surely that went right into the report.

    Does anyone in the world (well, let's leave leftist morons out of it) need to consider this circumstance for more than a millisecond before saying, "Good shoot"?!

    This guy planned to torture someone -- probably the new boyfriend -- before killing them all!

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    Sounds pretty open and shut to me.

    "In the middle of the night a gun-toting madman violates a restraining order, breaks through numerous reinforced barriers carrying a loaded .45 pistol, handcuffs, and leg irons. Do you shoot him?"

    My 10 year old son wouldn't have trouble answering that one.
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    It just goes to show

    Quote Originally Posted by havegunjoe View Post
    Here is an interesting update:

    http://www.startribune.com/467/story/875873.html


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    Richter had a loaded handgun when he tried to enter the doorway of the bedroom where Simons, 21, and Cegon and her 2-year-old son had been sleeping, Kelly said. ......



    "He refused to let her go, and said that if he couldn't have her, nobody would," Kelly said.

    Richter had been charged in November with making terroristic threats against Cegon.

    The break-in violated conditions of Richter's release from jail on the terroristic threats charge. He was accused of threatening to kill Cegon on Nov. 4,

    This just goes to show, If someone wants to get to you. Nothing and Nobody will stop them for you.

    You have to be ready to protect yourself, even then, there are no guarantees.
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    This happens too often. If you truly love someone and the feeling is not mutual let them go. If you want to own them this is what can happen. Its too bad someone had to die. my son is in the same situation. Ihope her ex dosen't come calling with a gun.

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