Need help ID'ing older firearm...

Need help ID'ing older firearm...

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    Need help ID'ing older firearm...

    I was looking at some of the guns (okay, two) that I got from my uncle after his death last year. The reason being is that the rifle has a pistol gripped stock, an old stevens if I am correct (hard to read the labels, the gun is old) and mearsured it yet again because some may take it as a short barrel but the barrel measures 21" and the overall length is 28" so it is good to go.

    But I was relooking at the .22 short IMP (Imperial Metal Products) pistol and I really can't find out anything about them. All I get on hits is a bicycle shop that started in 1914 and it is possible they made guns for a time (since Iver Johnson was also a bicycle plant).

    I also need to find out, if possible, the years that the guns were made.

    Any help would be helpful.

    Wayne


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    How about some pics of these classic firearms?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wayne View Post
    But I was relooking at the .22 short IMP (Imperial Metal Products) pistol and I really can't find out anything about them. All I get on hits is a bicycle shop that started in 1914 and it is possible they made guns for a time (since Iver Johnson was also a bicycle plant).

    I also need to find out, if possible, the years that the guns were made.

    Any help would be helpful.

    Wayne
    Here are some sources of info on the IMP.

    http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/...d.php?t=210194

    http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/...metal+products

    http://www.e-gunparts.com/model.asp?idDept=119

    http://www.earmi.it/armi/database/brand_i.htm
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    Thanks Doc.

    Hummm, I'm wondering when it was made, before or after 1968. I've looked everywhere but I can't find a SN unless the 4 on the frame is the sn. It's in pretty bad shape (yet still fires) and so scrapped up that I can't tell if it has a sn. If it is supposed to have one then I will either need to destroy it (even if the 4 which is very light (faint) is the sn, if it is a bigger number then the numbers have been worn so you can't see them) or find out how to get the numbers pulled back out.

    I know my uncle got it from the across the street number when he passed so it's not really a family heirloom or anything.

    Wayne

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    Sounds like it could well be old enough to have never had an SN.... which IIRC would not make it illegal.
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    Chris,

    That is what I am thinking BUT, with what is going on now days and even if it was made (if it could be proven and I assume that I would be the one to have to prove) one day before the 1968 law came into effect it's still too close and prob. impossible to prove otherwise.

    The only two that I have that don't have SN's on them is an old BP Colt (it doesn't work anyway) and another BP that had been converted to BP cart. Those I'm not too worried about.

    Come to think of it, I think it would just be better to lead the barrel and use it as a cap gun (fire blanks) and just not worry about it.

    Thanks again.

    Wayne

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    That is what I am thinking BUT, with what is going on now days and even if it was made (if it could be proven and I assume that I would be the one to have to prove) one day before the 1968 law came into effect it's still too close and prob. impossible to prove otherwise.
    What's 'odd' to you is normal in the industry - at any given time, I've seen the shop have a half-dozen unserialed guns in stock. Trust me, ATF and the prosecutors know - and it's not something you're going to have a problem with.

    If you don't believe me, contact an attorney before willy-nilly applying numbers to things.
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