Too cold to shoot?

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    Too cold to shoot?

    I was out at the range this afternoon trying out some hand loads in my MK-25, it was snowing and the temperature was 10 degrees Fahrenheit. I made it all the way through about 40 test loads and had started plinking with some factory loads.

    All of a sudden the slide locked closed (in battery??). I could not rack the slide except for a couple times. One time it ejected the round in the chamber and then finally it racked and I engaged the slide lock. When I got home, warmer of course, I had no problem racking the slide and ejecting some snap caps.

    I use Frog Lube. Could it have just been too cold?

    John

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    Not if you were shooting already. The firing would have warmed up the gun. If you said it locked up on the first shots, maybe. Switch to something synthetic (like Mobil 1) and give it a try in the cold. If it locks up again, it's not the lube.
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    The website says it's "designed for arctic temperatures," so I would hope 10 above is no problem.
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    Quite possibly!

    When it gets that cold, oil- and grease-type lubes just thicken up and may provide nearly the same resistance as sand or dirt does in a gun's action at normal temps. Your gun's (assuming your MK-25 is a Sig P226) slide-to-frame clearances should actually open up as temps decrease, so that's not a likely cause.

    When I lived in New England I was fond of late-season bird hunting, when the cold kept most other hunters indoors. This is when I found out my autoloading shotgun didn't like RemOil when temps went below about 15F or so, and it actually functioned better with either an industrial dry lube or no lube at all.

    If you have another opportunity to shoot in bitter cold, I'd suggest wiping every lubed surface clean and visibly dry first, and see if that makes a difference.
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    I'll stick with my light film of CLP.
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    10 degrees Fahrenheit is too cold for me to shoot regardless of the firearm lubricant used.
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    Sometimes on a gun I don't happen to be carrying every day, I shoot at the range several times without cleaning it - just to see what happens. Maybe all the grime from previous rounds mixed with the c-o-l-d gummed it up just enough. I cleaned it tonight and the function checks are perfect. I think I will go out again tomorrow and see what happens. It will even colder tomorrow, high of -4F.

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    Or go to a indoor range like I do
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    That is why you go out in the cold and shoot. You can learn how the climate changes things. Every one should go out in the cold at least once.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrBuckwheat View Post
    Every one should go out in the cold at least once.
    I did!

    Of course I was about 10 years old at the time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrBuckwheat View Post
    That is why you go out in the cold and shoot. You can learn how the climate changes things. Every one should go out in the cold at least once.
    I'll have my fair share of cold in 4 week when I leave for Marine Corps bootcamp. Ill stick to indoor ranges till then.
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    Never to cold. WE use Gun Butter never had a problem.

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    Flintlocks don't have that problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnaengus View Post
    I was out at the range this afternoon trying out some hand loads in my MK-25, it was snowing and the temperature was 10 degrees Fahrenheit. I made it all the way through about 40 test loads and had started plinking with some factory loads.

    All of a sudden the slide locked closed (in battery??). I could not rack the slide except for a couple times. One time it ejected the round in the chamber and then finally it racked and I engaged the slide lock. When I got home, warmer of course, I had no problem racking the slide and ejecting some snap caps.

    I use Frog Lube. Could it have just been too cold?

    John
    Frog Lube is kind of like butter. You are actually supposed to heat up your gun before applying the paste. I'm wondering if you might have just applied a little too much of the stuff. When cold, it might have thickened (caked), causing the pistol to foul. I don't use it so it's just a guess. Maybe worth a call to the manufacture to ask for some cold weather test data.
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    Maybe some out of spec factory rounds? If you have any left see if they hang up indoors.
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