This is a discussion on Finally took the CCW class today! within the General Firearm Discussion forums, part of the Related Topics category; I know I've been putting it off forever. The instructor was a Marine LT so I gave him a hard time (I was enlisted). I ...
I know I've been putting it off forever. The instructor was a Marine LT so I gave him a hard time (I was enlisted). I was a kid compared to the others in the class, but these were all re-quals for their permits were expired.
Some things I noticed:
Many of them did NOT practice any sort of muzzle control or safety. An elderly gentleman kept flagging the line constantly, I was standing right behind him and he kept pointing the gun backwards at me and some other gentleman (who was a cav scout).
Two ladies were pulled off the line because they fired 15 rounds from 7 feet away and could not hit the target. Nevada's course is a 30 round qual.
A lady at the course did not fire because she had never touched a firearm in her life.
This is not me saying look at me I'm better than all these other people, but it is concerning that many of the re-qualifiers had a complete disregard for muzzle safety.
Myself, I actually learned quite a bit. I had never received any formal instruction on a pistol shooting, and learned all about the different combat, cooper, and weaver stances. I also learned a sturdier grip, and I also learned that since I'm a righty and left eye dominant I can shoot with the left eye without switching to my off hand. All in all it was a great course. The two ladies that were pulled off the line were both shooting revolvers that were too powerful for them. One was a snub .38 special, the other a snub of some caliber. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't believe that subs are known for their accuracy. I used my Ruger P95 that I had just bought. It fed wrong a couple of more times, but more shooting and cleaning will fix that.
I really enjoyed the class! Makes me want to take NRA pistol courses.
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Ditto what ccw9mm said.
Also, re: snubs not being accurate, the problem is not intrinsic accuracy (they are plenty accurate) but that the short sight radius makes them harder to aim.
I'd have a hard time signing off on a permit as an instructor if the student couldn't/wouldn't at least understand and comply with the 4 basic rules.
It's not that difficult.
Don't try to be fancy. Shoot for the center of mass. The world is full of decent people. Criminals we can do without. -- Jeff Cooper (1920–2006)
Snubbies are fine. They do take a little practice. My wife has a S&W 642. Gave her a few pointers and she had no problem at combat distance. The truth is most self defense situations are up close. Snubbies are more then adequate for the job.
At my CHL range qualification. The person on my left at the ready line, had his finger on the trigger before the command to FIRE. Thus causing a premature (At least he had the gun pointed downrange) Firing. The range officer (he was a Sergeant Major in the Army,and spent time in the Navy too). talked with him privately and quietly. He asked me and the person on the shooters other side if we were alright. And we continued.
"Liberal arguments against guns tend to presume the worst: that a yearning for gun ownership must in some way be rooted in the desire to hurt. But gun culture at its best is rooted in a desire to protect, and especially to protect the people we love"
Rachel Lu (University of St. Thomas)
There was one women in my class that kept having failure to feeds. A guy that came with her, he was there to watch only, had to clear her gun. I'm talking roughly 20 times. She passed and was never questioned on her lack of knowledge. I think you should know your own firearm before you can even think about edcing it.
Linny, you don't want to step on any toes in that situation but, we are all responsible for range safety when we are on the range. If you see people being unsafe, call them on it. Better to ruffle a few feathers that to get shot by some moron. Just holler muzzle real loud at the offender a few times, the instructor will soon be made aware that he is not doing his job.
Let your plans be dark and impenetrable as night, and when you move, fall like a thunder bolt...... Sun Tzu.
The supreme art of war is to defeat the enemy without fighting........ Sun Tzu.
Your experience with the quality of students is the same I had and the very reason why I refuse to teach CCW courses anymore. Way to many yahoos as students and instructors in the game.
"Just blame Sixto"