Distances for training

Distances for training

This is a discussion on Distances for training within the General Firearm Discussion forums, part of the Related Topics category; I was just wondering what distances most people train with their carry handgun at. For the competitive pistol club I am in, we shoot .22's ...

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  • Under 7 yards

    14 12.96%
  • 7-10 yards

    58 53.70%
  • 10-15 yards

    17 15.74%
  • 15-25 yards

    18 16.67%
  • over 25 yards

    1 0.93%
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    Distances for training

    I was just wondering what distances most people train with their carry handgun at. For the competitive pistol club I am in, we shoot .22's out to 50 feet (thats as long as the range is), but when I go to the range to shoot my other pistols, I usually find myself putting my target at a distance of about 7-10 yards, figuring that most self defense scenarios will occur at that range or under. I will usually fire a coupe of magazines at longer distances, about 15-25 yards, and one or two mags at closer ranges, but the majority of the rounds are fired between 7-10 yards. Keep in mind this is just for shooting a stationary target at a range.
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    I voted for under seven yards. I shoot at longer distances, of course, but I feel that having a quick holster pull, and accurate shots at close distance to be, by far, the most important for self defense.
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    When I go to the range, I usually do some bullseye targets at 7 yards, silhouettes at 3, 5, and 7 yards (mixture of single shots, double taps, presenting from holster, etc.) and one magazine at 25 yards. I figure that most self defense situations happen at close range, but I ought to shoot a little bit of longer ranged stuff (since 'most' does not equal 'all').

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    I typically train from 2 yards out to 15 to 25 yards, focusing a lot on the seven yard range. What's the "Rule of 3's?": IIRC, Isn't it three yards, three shots and three seconds accordinging to FBI statistics?

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    We shoot at different ranges, from as close as arms length, out to 25 yards.

    I'm a big believer in 'aim small, miss small'.

    When shooting at IPSC style of targets, we put a small dot on center mass & another on 'center of the head', that way when aiming, we aren't just aiming at a silhouette shape, but at a specific point on the target. I've found that it helps me concentrate better & improves my groups. When shooting at a plain target, my groups & times widen quite a bit, due to not having a specific point in my sights.

    Try it for yourself, it works well when shooting & moving at the same time as well.

    For me this technique helps my muscle memory & hand eye coordination.
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    Quote Originally Posted by goawayfarm View Post
    When shooting at IPSC style of targets, we put a small dot on center mass & another on 'center of the head', that way when aiming, we aren't just aiming at a silhouette shape, but at a specific point on the target. I've found that it helps me concentrate better & improves my groups. When shooting at a plain target, my groups & times widen quite a bit, due to not having a specific point in my sights.
    This doesn't really seem like a good idea to me. It may make your groups smaller on paper, but the ultimate goal here is to be able to stop a BG. A BG isn't going to have a dot at the center of mass.

    Along similar lines, I went to a Polite Society shoot two weeks ago. Rather than silhouette targets, they used cardboard targets with t-shirts over them. I found that when shooting clothed targets, most of my shots were going into the upper stomach, rather than the vitals. Since then I've been practicing aiming higher on the target in my dry fire practice. Shooting paper/cardboard is never going to be the same as shooting at an actual assailant, but IMHO it should be as close as possible.

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    7 yards and under

    When I practice, I shoot 3, 5 and 7 yards using at least 30 rounds per distance shooting strong hand unsupported and weak hand unsupported and strong hand supported. Anything past 7 yards is just shooting for fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackeagle View Post
    This doesn't really seem like a good idea to me. It may make your groups smaller on paper, but the ultimate goal here is to be able to stop a BG. A BG isn't going to have a dot at the center of mass.
    It helps me by making me concentrate on center mass, If it's a BG, I know there will be no dot. It forces my focus on the front sight of the weapon better & helps me split the targets center, rather than just a blob or silhouette. As I have gotten to need bifocals now, I need all the help I can get to focus on the front sight & still see the target.

    Your mileage may vary, it works for me.
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    I Belong To A Private Outdoor Range...

    We have two pistol ranges...a regular range with targets that may be moved to your desired distance 7 yds and further.
    The second range also has the targets to move, but also has the steel 'body' frames, knock down steel plates and spinning steel plates.
    One may also move part way down the range and draw from retention...

    The steel body frames allow one to shoot multiple targets, and the spinning steel plates makes the target slightly more difficult to shoot.

    Hit a plate...shoot a body...hit another plate...hit another body...

    It's a great place to shoot...

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    I train from contact distance to 50 yards. Most is within 50'.

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    I do most of my training at fifty feet (about sixteen yards). I figure if I am accurate at this distance, I can hit anything closer. I do change it up and do a couple mags each range trip at around seven yards, and out to twenty-five yards.
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    I voted 7 - 10 range. I also shoot at max the 25.
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    From bench and bag,I shoot at 50yds. This is simply to see where my weapons POI vs POA will be. I DO NOT ajust the sights.

    Then, 25% of the training takes place at 15yds,25% of the training at 3yds,and 50% at 7yds.

    This could/will change with the expieriance and training of the shooter.

    If I had to choose only one range to train at,it would be 7yds.

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    I shoot mostly 7-10 yards the longest is 25.

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    I belong to one private club where all shooting must be done at fixed distances. The closest there is 7.5 yds, so that is what I use all the time.

    I belong to a second private club that allows shooting from holster, moving while shooting, and placing the targets at any distance you like. I usually set up at 3-5 yds at this club.

    I'm no longer interested in bullseye shooting, so only shoot at longer distances with pistol when I'm shooting at the first club's indoor range (33' min distance there).

    Also since my Wife is just getting into shooting, keeping to the closer distances is easier for her to do better with it.
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