January 4th, 2007 11:03 PM
For any reason whatsoever, as is their prerogative. Absolutely. Of course, such folks (as this ill-motivated purchaser) would claim infringement of a "right" to purchase a firearm, or some drivel.
Originally Posted by USPnTX
Agreed that she's likely to be dead or have killed someone within the year. A ticking bomb, that one. The sort that gives gun carriers all the bad names that exist.
Your best weapon is your brain. Don't leave home without it.
self defense (A.O.J.).
How does disarming
the number of victims?
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January 4th, 2007 11:51 PM
Heck yeah, a gun store can refuse to sell to her under those circumstances...or any others, including that they just don't want to.
January 4th, 2007 11:59 PM
I think in this case if I were the salesmen I would have "invented" the waiting period "Law" and a requirement for training for this type occurance.
Originally Posted by Hopyard
"[T]he people are not to be disarmed of their weapons.
They are left in full possession of them."
Zacharia Johnson (speech in the Virginia Ratifying Convention,25 June 1778)"The best we can hope for concerning the people at large is that they be properly armed."
January 5th, 2007 12:37 AM
January 5th, 2007 12:59 AM
You guys are lucky she didn't break out some .38s out of her purse while grinning and saying "5 rounds will do just fine." That sounds like a good tactical scenario right there.
Originally Posted by USPnTX
FFL holders in the forum - can you call the BATFE and report this behavior or do you have to file a complaint with the police/sheriff/court? She definetly sounds like she shouldn't have a firearm.
January 5th, 2007 09:05 AM
Some times we just have to say "No." and stick by it - this should have been a "No" sale time.
January 5th, 2007 09:27 AM
I have refused sales in the past, and would have refused that sale. As mentioned in a previous post, it is hard sometimes to know what is happening, but when you have a person who won't answer a question (even if it is by a different person), or looks at someone in disgust for providing information, there is some bad juju there.
January 5th, 2007 10:17 AM
Another factor in all this, the gun community needs to police itself in order to keep lawmakers away. This was a pefect missed chance to keep a gun out of the wrong hands.
Lets say the old lady is a nut, and heads off to the bingo hall and shoots it up... The headline will read, Old Bag Shoots Up Bingo Hall;
second line will read, Gun Bought At Local Gun Shop.
Doesn't exactly help our cause now, does it?
Now the more likely scenario, she wants the gun to off herself. Who do you think her family is going after first?
The orginal poster's story has all the classic signs of someone purchasing a gun for suicide.... I hope I'm wrong.
January 5th, 2007 10:38 AM
I agree wholeheartedly. +1
Originally Posted by pogo2
January 5th, 2007 02:33 PM
Absolutely I would have refused to sell to her. What I might have suggested to her was to take the NRA's First Steps course, show me proof of completion then I would sell her the gun. She showed such total lack of even basic knowledge of firearms I would be more afraid she would shoot someone or herself accidently. While education is not a requirment of the Second Amendment she was downright scary.
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January 5th, 2007 11:44 PM
It always makes me cringe to read about poor gun handling. Sounds like that woman was a real piece of work.
January 6th, 2007 08:27 AM
Agree wholeheartedly that this is a case where the sale should have been refused. On the up side, they did just "happen" to be out of .38s. Pretty unusual ammo for a gun store to have in stock, anyway . . .
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January 6th, 2007 02:39 PM
I agree with what others have said: Once she aimed the presumably unloaded gun at me and pulled the trigger three times, I would've taken the gun and politely asked her to take her business elsewhere. And I'd make sure there was a sign, clearly displayed, "We reserve the right to refuse service and sales to anyone."
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