January 6th, 2007 11:30 AM
What's a 1911?
I hope my question didn't make folks chuckle, and I hope everyone remembers when they were learning this stuff for the first time, but I'm at a loss.
I've seen this referenced many times now, since researching getting my first carry gun (or any type of gun, actually). At first, I thought it was a particular manufacturer's model number. Then I realized I was seeing 1911s from several top-name gun makers.
So, if you were to tell an almost-complete-newbie like myself (I've at least held and fired guns, including at a police firing range) what a 1911 is, what would you say?
(I searched this entire forum, and I wasn't of a mind to look through all 150 hits I got for that one definition I'm looking for. The thread subject headers all seemed to indicate the reader already knows what a 1911 is.)
January 6th, 2007 11:33 AM
Gov't 1911 A1 - the original John Browning ''Colt .45'' - issued to troops and much used in WWII - and said to originate from the year 1911.
Since that time - much copied and emulated - and many derivatives have been made. The original tho is what we call ''full size'' - the 5". Affectionately known often as ''old slabsides''.
This is my only 1911 right now - a Colt Sistema originating from Argentina - but apart from a different trigger I fitted, pretty much a Gov't A1 effectively.
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January 6th, 2007 11:43 AM
Thanks for the quick reply, Chris.
So are 1911s always .45 caliber? I've always just heard them called "45s."
Nice looking gun there, btw. Thanks for sharing and showing!
January 6th, 2007 11:46 AM
No they aren't. I carry a .45, my wife on the other hand has a 1911 in 9mm. There are also 10mm and .38spl's available.
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January 6th, 2007 11:51 AM
1911s are all similar to the one pictured. Most, yes, are .45, but not all. They will all have a similar straight pull (vs hinged) trigger, will have a grip safety, will have the same shape and grip angle, and be single action (due to the trigger type).
The "1911" refers to the design shown. Almost all the major gun manufacturers make a 1911.
There are a couple differences, but those are the main design features that make a pistol a 1911. There are some internal similarities that can't be seen in the picture that also apply.
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January 6th, 2007 01:18 PM
Have you never heard of Wikipedia? It's great, and here is its page on the M1911. Everything a beginner needs to know...
January 6th, 2007 01:34 PM
Just a note on Wiki... not everything there is 100% correct, as users are allowed to modify the page as they seem fit. However, for the most part, info on Wiki tends to be right on.
January 6th, 2007 02:23 PM
1911 is also an addiction...
Besides being a very popular and distinctive handgun design, the 1911 is also an expensive habit and addiction, as many here will attest. I have owned about a dozen of them, and still am providing for about 8 of those.
Originally Posted by seattlekos
My latest is this little baby 1911 which still hasn't grown up completely. He only has a 3 inch barrel but eats as much ammo as his adult family members.
January 6th, 2007 08:22 PM
What's a 1911?
How technical do you want to get?
Unfortunatley, "1911" has become a generic term.
It began with the 1911, on 28 Dec, 1911 when the first 40 M1911 pistols were assembled for the military.
The first 43 Government Models (the correct civilian name for the pistol) were assembled on 09 Mar, 1912.
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January 6th, 2007 08:53 PM
Well, if you ask aperson who likes a 1911 they will tell you that the 1911 is the only pistol worth owning.
January 6th, 2007 09:39 PM
January 6th, 2007 09:51 PM
I can also attest to the addiction side of this. Till recently, I had just one. A P14, and loved it. Now I've added a Kimber Ultra Carry II, and a Para Warthog. I haven't gotten the Warthog broken in yet, but the Kimber can do no wrong. I just love the way it feels in my hand. As of now, it will be my carry pistol, until or unless I find a reason to like the Warthog better, or the P14 to carry comfortably. (Can't get a decent holster fast enough to tell).
Originally Posted by pogo2
Worst of all, I really like the idea of a single stack 1911 in 10MM.
This is MADNESS!!
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January 6th, 2007 10:18 PM
Yes, you would like Colt 1911 in 10mm,own mine about 14 years, still love it.
Originally Posted by stewartjwnls
January 6th, 2007 10:24 PM
Originally Posted by raevan
Ya like they said.
Originally Posted by Ti Carry
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January 7th, 2007 08:26 AM
Technical's good. I love details.
Originally Posted by OD
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