Stolen Pistol Question?
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March 13th, 2007 08:55 PM
Stolen Pistol Question?
The year before last I bought my step dad a Ruger P95 pistol for Xmas. Just very recently it was stolen from his vehicle by a few deviant relatives of ours (my ex-in-laws). My question is since it was bought new from a pawn shop and all the papers with the serial numbers is also missing. The receipt he lost a long time ago, the shell casing, pouch was still in the plastic box also. And I have no idea how I can report this firearm stolen since its is registered in my name. The last thing I want is something stupid done with it and be catching the flack for it. Any ideas how this could be reported with no way of proving the the serial #'s are connected to me?
March 13th, 2007 09:05 PM
The local dept from where ever the gun was stolen should take the theft report without any proof of ownership. They want to get it into the system as stolen.
I would be careful about explaining the "I bought it for dad" part since that's technically not legal.
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March 13th, 2007 09:08 PM
Contact The Police...
At least make a report of what you had...make and model, where you bought YOUR GUN, and where and when it was taken.
Now you have some sort of paper trail.
Lots of people have guns taken without knowing the serial number or even having a bill of sale...I don't understand why...but they do...
You wouldn't want to have the police show up at your house because a gun traced/sold to you killed someone...and then try to tell them it was stolen from you...they've heard that one before...
Contact the pawn shop next, they have to have a record of the sale...if you know the approximate date of purchase, they may be able to get the serial number for you...then give that to the police too.
Nice relatives...but that is just another reason NOT to leave a gun in the car!
Maybe someone else may have a better suggestion...lots of LE in these here parts...
Proverbs 27:12 says: “The prudent see danger and take refuge, but the simple keep going and suffer for it.”
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March 13th, 2007 09:11 PM
You can easily prove you bought it from the pawn shop, they still have the serial number, the date you bought it etc.
That form you filled out is called a 4473. It has your info on it as well as the guns info. The FFL dealer is required to keep that information for the very same reasons you have asked about it. It needs to be reported now. Oh yeah, Kentucky has no gun registration, and you are allowed to transfer a gun as a gift.
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March 13th, 2007 09:15 PM
As sixto said giving a gun as a gift is legal thats not a straw purchase
March 13th, 2007 09:22 PM
...no...you bought it and sold it to dad for $1
March 14th, 2007 01:07 AM
I can answer that (at least for me anyway). Thankfully I'm in VA which still recognizes a citizens right to privately sell a firearm with no record of the transaction required. Since some of us (ie ME) tend to be a bit more paranoid these days than I used to, I no longer buy via DEALER. I will only buy via private sale, cash in hand, and after a thorough inspection of said item. No record of sale. No serial numbers recorded. The blasted things shouldn't even have serial numbers! It has nothing to do with any planned illegal activities (I have NO arrest records or anything). It has to do with whenever they decide to come looking for them...Matter of fact, now that I think about it, I only have one firearm left in my possession that I actually purchased at a dealer. God Bless Virginia...and may he d@mn those bugger reporters that put out all our addresses!
Originally Posted by retsupt99
March 14th, 2007 01:36 AM
Just an FYI for future transactions. Keep records for your personal references. I keep all paperwork and reciepts, I also have a discrition of each firearm with all info, if I give or sell a firearm I keep the original info on file with the name of person it was given or sold to.
If any firearm is traced back to me I have all the info as to where it went. CYA (cover your actions)
March 14th, 2007 01:42 AM
You have a legal and moral obligation to report the firearm stolen.
Do it quickly.
The pawn shop will have the necessary records.
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March 14th, 2007 01:58 AM
Yeah something else to think about...
if you dont have the serial numbers of your guns on record,you might have a very difficult time getting them back from the police even if they are found.
That record can be a sheet of paper with the numbers on them that you wrote, a bill of sale that had the serial number on it or a copy of the 4473.
There are many guns that get recovered that the owner has no proof of as his, therefore he will not get them back. Often times these guns are auctioned off. That sucks, but that is the way it is.
hecks...the next step towards registration and confiscation.
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March 14th, 2007 09:23 AM
I always ask for a copy of the 4473 when I purchase from a gun dealer. These go in the safe deposit box.
Report the gun ASAP and if you believe that you know who took it, make sure to tell the police that as well. It might help in the recovery.
March 14th, 2007 01:09 PM
Not trying to bash anyone but not knowing your weapons serial number and location makes all gun owners look irresponsible.
We should be the ones who have ourselves squared away.
We clean our guns and take safety classes and keep them away from kids. Part of gun ownership should include documentation.
Document your serial numbers and take digital photos of your weapons. Keep all the info on a CD or memory stick in the safe. If lost, stolen, damaged it makes things easier.
"What is left when honor is lost?" - Publilius Syrus, Maxims
March 15th, 2007 06:30 PM
As of today I stopped by the pawnshop I bought the gun from thank God they had the 4473 on file and I was able to get a copy of it. This is a huge lesson to me from now on ALL my P's and Q's are gonna be squared away. All the serial number stuff was with the fire arm that my stedad had all in the case no less. I now have everything copied down and put in my biggest gun case including digital pictures of most of them now (thanks for the idea ). And from now on I'll never let anything like this happen again. I'll make another report at the Berea police station and make sure they know where the gun walked away from and that my ex-wife admitted she still has it to another relative.
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