For all you clip/magazine purists.

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    For all you clip/magazine purists.

    The latest, April 2007. edition of "American Rifleman" has on page 17, the following statement in a Marlin ad.

    "EXTRA 7-SHOT CLIP WITH RIMFIRE MAGNUMS - All clip-loading magnums are packed with a new 4-shot clip and come with an extra 7-shot magazine. The new 4-shot clip offers the benefit of a low profile when shooting from the bench or carrying in the field."

    Hmmmmm!
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    Language evolves. When I was a kid "ain't" wasn't word. I believe it is in the dictionary now.

    Reguardless, I educate folks once then I just let it go. It's not worth it to me. Somefolks just rather stay wrong than admit they're wrong, which in a word is wrong.
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    If it's a "CLIP" it must function w/o a spring.

    Your right >>> Hmmmmm ??? Or better still........the add was written AND proofread by >>> Hmmmmm ?? -----

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    Maybe it's time to just accept the use of "clip" as a synonym for "magazine". Not too many of us using stripper clips any more. Plus, you'd have to get some widely used sources to change their definitions. From the Merriam-Webster online dictionary:

    Function: noun
    1 : any of various devices that grip, clasp, or hook
    2 : a device to hold cartridges for charging the magazines of some rifles; also : a magazine from which ammunition is fed into the chamber of a firearm
    3 : a piece of jewelry held in position by a clip

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    Quote Originally Posted by cvhoss View Post
    Maybe it's time to just accept the use of "clip" as a synonym for "magazine". Not too many of us using stripper clips any more. Plus, you'd have to get some widely used sources to change their definitions. From the Merriam-Webster online dictionary:

    Function: noun
    1 : any of various devices that grip, clasp, or hook
    2 : a device to hold cartridges for charging the magazines of some rifles; also : a magazine from which ammunition is fed into the chamber of a firearm
    3 : a piece of jewelry held in position by a clip
    Well, if they define "clip" as "a magazine from which ammunition is fed..." that sort of implies that it is, in fact, a magazine, no?

    Hey, if tomorrow half of the world started calling a cat a television, it would still be a cat to me...

    And, as has been mentioned, just 'cause it was printed don't make it true...
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    Thats called bad marketing. That is a add that Marlin submitted to the publication. This only proves one thing. If your going to hire somebody to design your adds make sure that they know the technical terms for the pieces that your dealing with. Just because people work in the industry, in this case a major gun manufacturer, that doesn't mean they know the technical language or know how to shoot them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OPFOR View Post
    Well, if they define "clip" as "a magazine from which ammunition is fed..." that sort of implies that it is, in fact, a magazine, no?

    Hey, if tomorrow half of the world started calling a cat a television, it would still be a cat to me...

    And, as has been mentioned, just 'cause it was printed don't make it true...
    Agreed.

    I guess I am a "purist"/anal retentive. Clips are not magazines, and magazines ARE NOT clips anymore than semi-automatic firearms are "cop-killing, blood thirsty deadly assault weapons"!!

    Now repeat after me...





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    im just baffled by how the word actually stuck with so many people, that the dictionary even reflects it now

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    from same dictionary:

    Main Entry: assault rifle
    Function: noun
    : any of various automatic or semiautomatic rifles with large capacity magazines designed for military use

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    Hey, I found "irregardless" in a dictionary once. Of course, the definition was on word - "regardless," and the dictionary cautioned that it was a non-standard word and shouldn't be used, but there it was.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OPFOR View Post
    Hey, I found "irregardless" in a dictionary once. Of course, the definition was on word - "regardless," and the dictionary cautioned that it was a non-standard word and shouldn't be used, but there it was.
    WOW!

    As I was reading this thread, I was planning to mention that evil non-word above that so many people seem to think is a word. But you and that dictionary beat me to it, I guess.

    I am frequently appalled at how often illiterate people are allowed to get into print and broadcast apparently with no proofreading. On my local AM radion station, advertisers submit copy for spots and the station doesn't seem to have anyone check them - they just produce and broadcast. It makes me cringe. You'd think that if you are paying to get your message out to the community, you might want to project an image of professionalism, which is completely destroyed by incorrect grammar.
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    I had a friend that worked for a "higher end" (American)scope manufacturer. He was sitting at his desk one day when the chief add exec walked by and asked if he had seen the latest pic of their mounted scope that was gonna be released to 4 of the biggest shooting and hunting rags out there.

    My friend said that he looked at the associated pic and something "just didn't seem to look right". Upon further "pondering",he discovered that the scope was mounted.........backasswards. It was also a 6X24 mounted on a Ruger #1H.

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    Clip, Magazine, I'm just glad to hear they now have a flush fitting 4 rounder. That 7 round magazine does protrude enough to be bothersome in the field and almost useless from the bench.
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