My first bolt action

My first bolt action

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    My first bolt action

    Well I've got a lever, a couple of semi's but this is my first bolt action rifle.

    Ishapore 2A (Indian made Lee-Enfield)
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    That's the .308 right?

    Let us know how in performs. I want a beater manual action .308
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    Great choice , the SMLE is the absolute pinicale of the turnbolt battle rifles . Its not my favorite bolt by any means but is one heck of a rifle none the less .
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    Quote Originally Posted by pgrass101 View Post
    That's the .308 right?

    Let us know how in perfroms. I want a beater manual action .308
    My guess is that it's a .303 Brit.


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    Indian arsenal ( ishipore ) are typicaly .308 or if you please 7.62 nato . I dont honestly know if they ever produced a .303 or even had tooling for that cal .
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    Indeed, the ''Ishy'' is chambered .308 ........ I have one and it is OK but - thus far not a gun for tight groups. I reckon tho when I get to it, some good homeloads will make the difference.

    It is nice to have an SMLE where you don't need to find or load the .303. The gun for .303 fun tho is the MkV Jungle carbine!


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    Chris as i understand it the " ishy " suffers from some of the same issues that the jungle carbine does . Both are a lightned action which can and does flex among other things . Not a moa gun , but will shoot into a couple of moa all day normaly and honestly more accurate than one would need to hunt or defend himself .
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    True Bob up to a point - in fact tho my ''Jungle'' with just the rear peep at 100 yards is incredibly accurate - more than one might expect.

    I don't expect big things from the Ishy that's for sure but know I can tighten groups up a bit yet. Dang tho - it ain't light! LOL!
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    LOL chris , it is as opposed to an enfield .06 , or even a springfield . It is a hell of an action tho for folks who can appreciate it . Not the strongest , but the best for an all around defensive turnbolt . The Brits by sticking to the bolt so long gave us the most advanced bolt possible imho .
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    Hopefully I'll get to the range this weekend and we'll see if it has the "wandering zero" problem I've read about similar to the jungle carbine.

    Chris do you shoot 308 in your Ishy? I'm just wondering if the off the shelf 308 is too hot for it compared to the 7.62 Nato.
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    I am I confess not sure just how the chamber tolerances are re use of mil or .380 Win. I have used both but mainly mil - could be why I get poorer groups, although it shows no signs of case distress.

    I do however feel it is well strong enough both re the chamber and bolt lockup for the full .308 Win. I hope some reloads will improve groups.

    An exception to this is the Spanish Mauser 1916 which was rechambered .308 but has potentially poor bolt strength and so was reckoned to not be so safe as needed. I use that for experiments with low vel cast bullets - still fun!
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    Hopefully I'll get to the range this weekend and we'll see if it has the "wandering zero" problem I've read about similar to the jungle carbine.
    The ishy will handle any commercial or mil round safely . I wouldnt use it to hotrod handloads tho . Also it should not show the " wandering zero " of the jungle carbine which is a specific problem due to several factors . It may well shoot a looser group than a standard smle tho since it is a modified action . As i said above it should be plenty accurate for about any use since the wildest grouping smle i eaver saw still shoots tighter than many commercial guns of current manufacture .
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    That's what I was figuring with a "modern" weapon. I read some stuff on surplus rifle and was a little worried.
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    I know the .303 SMLE was meant to be fed by stripper clips even though it had a detachable box mag.

    Is the ISH the same way?
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    I'm guessing so. Mag is detachable but there is a slot for cliploading.

    http://www.surplusrifle.com/shooting...ishy/index.asp
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