AK "effective" range?

AK "effective" range?

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    AK "effective" range?

    This is not meant to spark an AR / AK debate, but what is the spec effective range of an AK? The spec sheet of an M-16 states it's effective range at 800 meters. If I remember correctly, "effective range" here is defined as the maximum distance you can consistently engage a target 1'x1'.

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    Thats an impossible question to answer with a whole lot of accuracy...no pun intended.

    There are countless makers of AK's, most are garbage good for maybe 100 yds, 200 on a good day. Then there are other really good makes that can go longer, but not much. It really isnt intended on being a long range accurate gun, but some variants are pretty good at doing just that.
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    IMO - 100 - 200 yards is my take on that. My SAR1 functions perfectly and with it's red dot is capable of putting shots where they matter - but MOA it ain't!

    Minute of pie plate however, even out to 200 is workable. My best results come at 100, after which some compensation is needed.
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    Ive read its about 4 MOA @ 100 yards, and So its definitely not a long range weapon. I would venture to say.. (and this is just my own opinion of how far out I think I could hit something about 8" around) maybe 150 yards, I would be much more confident at 100 though. I just purchased my own AK last week. I like it, its fun to shoot.
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    Im sorry guys...MOA?

    P95Carry...what sort of compensation is available?

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    MOA= minute of angle, I think there was a sticky or at least a thread that explained what this was better than I can here somewhere...
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    Ah ha, here we go...

    Quote Originally Posted by rocky View Post
    Minute of Angle. typically 1" = a click or several depending on the MOA adjustment of the scope/sights at 100 yrds. So when a scope reads 1/4" moa adjustments 4 clicks =1"
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    1 MOA = Roughly 1" at 100 yards.

    1/2 MOA = 1/2" at 100 yards or 1" at 200 yards.

    2 MOA = 1" at 50 yards or 2" at 100 yards or 4" at 200 yards.

    Making sense?
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    P95Carry...what sort of compensation is available?
    Sorry - compensation was not best word to use - I meant ''hold-over'' perhaps - as in aiming higher. My SAR has no compensator as such. There are some available however.

    If shooting at a plate at 175 yards I know I take a 12 o'clock hold plus a bit! !!

    Yes MOA we had recently - and goawayfarm did a nice post. With his permission I added it to one of my sites and you'll find it HERE
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    Thanks P95, that was what I was looking for to post, but couldnt find it quickly.
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    No sweat
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    As said, aK variants are best at 100 yrd range or so. I have read the sniper variant (SVD dragonov)isn't all that accurate either, but never have got to try one out.
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    Arent snipers all over the world using these things (AK's)? for instance in Iraq?

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    An AK could be used for sniping - as could about anything but, there will still be the range limitations.

    The ''classic'' sniper rifle is usually at least based on .308 (7.62x51) or better - both for reasons of accuracy as well as range. These are the true ''reach out and touch'' weapons.
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    I've heard effective range defined a couple of ways:
    1. The range where you can expect to hit a man size target 50% of the time.
    2. The maximum range within which a weapon is effective against its intended target.

    I'd say the AK is good to at least 300 yards. I make an 8" metal plate go plink at 200 anyway.

    The 800 meter listing for the M-16 is for area targets, for point targets (individual people) it is more like 550. The M-4 and M-16A4 have less adjustment in the rear sight so it drops to about 600 for area.

    The term "sniper" is way over used IMO. "Ambusher" seems more appropriate for most of what I see on the news.
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    The term "sniper" is way over used IMO. "Ambusher" seems more appropriate for most of what I see on the news.
    Indeed. Anyone can shoot from concealment - that doesn't make you a sniper in any real sense of the word. A true sniper, as we define it, is specially trained and equipped, as well as having a specific, specialized mission. Then again, why would we expect a media that reports about "heat seeking" .50 cal rounds and 22 round-capacity Glock 22s to actually have any idea what they're talking about in this case?
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