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    Gun ban politician carries a 38

    http://www.philly.com/inquirer/local...hreatened.html

    Gun-control lawmaker threatenedBy Mario F. Cattabiani and Amy Worden
    Inquirer Staff Writers

    BRADLEY C. BOWER / Associated Press

    Calling for tighter gun-control laws, Diane Edbril of CeaseFire PA and State Rep. Jewell Williams speak in the Capitol. Williams said yesterday that he'd been threatened by an Allentown man. HARRISBURG - For protection, State Rep. Jewell Williams packs a .38-caliber revolver in his North Philadelphia district and while traveling to Harrisburg.

    But a threatening e-mail he received yesterday has him considering a further precaution: dusting off an old bulletproof vest stored for the last seven years in his closet.

    The e-mail, sent by a man Williams identified as a resident of Allentown, said Williams should be shot while in the Capitol.

    The e-mail threat is the latest fallout from an incident Tuesday after a large gun-rights rally in the Capitol in which two men unfurled a banner on the Rotunda steps that read: "Rep. Cruz should be hung from the tree of liberty for treasonous acts against the Constitution."

    Rep. Angel Cruz (D., Phila.) is sponsoring legislation to require gun registration and a $10-a-gun annual fee.

    "Now that I hear this attitude of people recommending lynching, I'll probably be wearing my gun more and possibly wearing my bulletproof vest, because we now think we're being threatened," Williams, a former police officer, said yesterday at a news conference calling for tighter gun laws.

    Williams, a Democrat, was among members of the Legislative Black Caucus who on Tuesday called on the state police to investigate the banner, believing it amounted to a terroristic threat against Cruz, the General Assembly's only Latino member.

    The banner remained a hot topic at the Capitol yesterday, even playing a role in a committee hearing on legislation to curb illegal guns.

    Diane Edbril, executive director of CeaseFirePA, told the House Judiciary Committee that in Pennsylvania "the pro-gun violence lobby has held sway to the point that this week one of its members felt empowered enough to suggest inside the Capitol building that a lawmaker be killed for advocating more gun regulations."

    John Hohenwarter, a lobbyist with the National Rifle Association, was asked about the banner at the committee hearing. He called it a "derogatory sign."

    "It's a shame," he told the committee. "You cannot control everybody who comes to those events."

    The House panel is considering four bills, including one that would limit purchases of handguns to one a month.

    Despite polls that show most Pennsylvanians support such limits, the legislature - made up largely of members from rural regions where hunting and the right to bear arms are king - has blocked all such efforts.

    "Are we going to have one abortion a month? . . . Are we going to restrict that, too?" Rep. Will Gabig (R., Cumberland) said at the hearing. "One gun a month is not going to save one life in Pennsylvania."

    The other bills would stiffen the legal requirements to safely secure firearms, set penalties for not reporting lost or stolen guns, and provide for minimum sentences for crimes involving the illegal transfer of weapons.

    On Wednesday, Gov. Rendell decried the racial overtones on the banner but said he did not support a state police investigation into the incident.

    Yesterday, Col. Jeffrey Miller, head of the state police, said he forwarded the Black Caucus' request for an investigation to the Capitol police, who have jurisdiction in the matter.

    Edward Myslewicz, a Capitol police spokesman, said the agency planned to begin an investigation.

    Cruz said yesterday that he had not received any death threats since the incident but planned to file a formal complaint with the Capitol police against the creators of the banner.

    "You have to take all threats seriously, and I don't want what happened to happen again," said Cruz. "No one's above the law."

    Several hundred gun-rights supporters rallied at the Capitol on Tuesday urging lawmakers to reject efforts at additional gun-control laws.

    In contrast, on the very same spot yesterday, four people, including Williams, spoke at a news conference calling for further gun controls.

    Williams said he had forwarded the e-mail to Philadelphia police and planned to notify Capitol police as well.
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    7 y.o. vest??

    hasn't he heard - some of those vests only have a 5 year service life...

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    Why don't these polititicians who are anti gun go after the real culprit which is the drug trade. This causes more deaths and heart break then any thing else. they should go after the crimanals rather then trying to disarm the law abideing citizen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MR D View Post
    7 y.o. vest??

    hasn't he heard - some of those vests only have a 5 year service life...
    Shhh! Don't tell him!!

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    Why does rep. Angel Cruz Get to carry a gun when he is trying to take away our Second Amendment rights. Is he any better than the rest of us. This is what you call a two faced polititicians.



    WHO VOTED FOR THIS TWO FACED POLITITICAIN ANY WAY? SHAME ON YOU IF YOU DID.
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    Hasn't he heard? The police will protect you! That's what they tell us as to why we don't need firearms...
    "How a politician stands on the Second Amendment tells you how he or she views you as an individual... as a trustworthy and productive citizen, or as part of an unruly crowd that needs to be lorded, controlled, supervised, and taken care of." -- Rep. Suzanna Gratia Hupp (TX)

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    LoL. It's incredibly funny when politicians are so overtly hypocritical. It's almost what I'd call poignant!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom G View Post
    Why does rep. Angel Cruz Get to carry a gun when he is trying to take away our Second Amendment rights. Is he any better than the rest of us. This is what you call a two faced polititicians.
    More to the point, this is what used to spark REVOLUTIONS and public beheadings!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom G View Post
    Why don't these polititicians who are anti gun go after the real culprit which is the drug trade. This causes more deaths and heart break then any thing else. they should go after the crimanals rather then trying to disarm the law abideing citizen.
    We're already throwing 80 billion a year at that one. Completely ineffective I also will add.
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    two men unfurled a banner on the Rotunda steps that read: "Rep. Cruz should be hung from the tree of liberty for treasonous acts against the Constitution."
    While the above may be true, that kind of stuff doesn't help our cause.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom G View Post
    Why don't these polititicians who are anti gun go after the real culprit which is the drug trade. This causes more deaths and heart break then any thing else. they should go after the crimanals rather then trying to disarm the law abideing citizen.
    OY! where do I begin...That isn't the problem either. The drug trade is not a problem...never was and never should be...if people want to kill themselves and be burdens to their families...fine!
    The real problem is lack of reason and logic and the teaching of not using reason and logic. All those in favor of such deserve no better than a clown suit and paraded around the town square as an idiot and no less than what was already said and/or sterilization to protect the rest of the country from FOOLS such as this.
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    From Jeffrey Snyder's "A Nation of Cowards"...

    "The Unarmed Life"

    "When columnist Carl Rowan preaches gun control and uses a gun to defend his home, when Maryland Gov. William Donald Schaefer seeks legislation year after year to ban semiautomatic "assault weapons" whose only purpose, we are told, is to kill people, while he is at the same time escorted by state police armed with large-capacity 9mm semiautomatic pistols, it is not simple hypocrisy. It is the workings of that habit of mind possessed by all superior beings who have taken upon themselves the terrible burden of civilizing the masses and who understand, like our Congress, that laws are for other people [emphasis added]."

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    NO, no, no Rep. Williams. You cannot pack heat. You must get a restraining order, change your schedule, contact the police when you see the person threating you, and do all the things you want us to do in this situation. Trust in the law and the government of which you are a representative. Oh yea, don't forget to carry a cell phone for protection. But under no circumstances are you to carry a gun for self protection.

    Someone should point out to him how when his life is threatened the FIRST thing he does is turn to the evil gun for protection. How come if I do that I am just a gun nut that should rely on the police?
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    Quote Originally Posted by havegunjoe View Post
    Someone should point out to him how when his life is threatened the FIRST thing he does is turn to the evil gun for protection. How come if I do that I am just a gun nut that should rely on the police?

    Excellent point.

    There is nothing hard to understand about that logic. No secret is made of that truth.

    That's why, when people say that gun-controllers are just misguided, I say that's crap -- they're evil -- because they have just as much access to this understanding, and the fallacy of the anti-gun ideology, as anyone else has. Yet they don't come around to the rational, logical way of seeing it.

    The anti-gunners have to be willfully not accepting our logic. That means it's not just an honest mistake to be anti-gun. It means it's deliberate, and that introduces the hypocrisy and evil to their position.

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