Need Advice on Grip replacement(Please)

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    Need Advice on Grip replacement(Please)

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    I am tring to replace the grips on my 1911. 3 of the screws come out no problem. The last one the head is now stripped. Any advice on how I can get it out??? Thanks to any and all who reply in advance!!
    Andy

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    Hmmm - never easy.

    I might consider trying ........ field strip and then put frame in Freezer for a good while until totally chilled. First apply inside mag well at back of screw some Kroil or release agent.

    Then (prep for this in advance) - lay gun on a nylon or wood block - and use a sharp hard small metal punch which is ground to a good sharp end. There is one type sold for making grooves and is ground such that end is an oblique diamond - good point on it.

    Then - which a helper if possible to keep frame secure ....... engage punch on part of the buggered head ... and strike firmly but not too hard on the punch with it about 45º leaning right. Thus force is directed to help screw turn counter clockwise. Do same on opposite side of screw.

    Do this while metal still chilled. If no go - re chill and try again.

    Heat can be useful for stuck screws but here it might spoil grips.

    If all else fails it will have to be drilled out - and that needs prep'ing so drill works on center - drill press job. Drill wants to be a few thou smaller than thread root dia ... so that original thread stays intact.

    If you are shy of trying much more than you have - find a gunsmith to help - it may save you some heartache even if it costs a few bucks. Finally - do invest in a set of Brownells gun screwdrivers - they can help prevent boogered screws even when they are seemingly tight and impossible.
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    Since you won't be able to reinstall that screw, the easiest thing off hand would be to get a small EZout.

    QKShooter probably has a better answer. He can do magic with screws.
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    Only prob' John with EZ-outs .. you still need to drill sufficient to get one in - and so care still needed to stay on center ... plus if torque required still high those darned things can break!

    Of course at end of all this a new screw needed, that's for sure!

    QK - yeah - need your input here
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    Quote Originally Posted by P95Carry View Post
    Only prob' John with EZ-outs .. you still need to drill sufficient to get one in - and so care still needed to stay on center ... plus if torque required still high those darned things can break!
    That's true. The threads are a lot thinner than the heads are on those screws. Would definitely want to use a drill press to keep from buggering up the threads on the frame. QK's probably got a better way, though.
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    One screw head broke off and the grip panel is off ?

    So you have free access to the grip screw bushing but the head is off the screw and the screw threads are still inside the bushing ?

    If you have a fine cut jewelers saw or a Dremel with thin abrasive "cut off" disks then you can try cutting a new screw slot right into the screw shank
    - then eat it slightly first with a propane torch
    - then soak it in penetrating oil overnight
    - then grind a screwdriver tip down real thin & gently work it out.
    That usually works.

    The EASY way is just to grab the entire grip screw bushing with a pair of vice grips and unscrew the whole bushing.
    Then just pop in a new grip screw bushing set with loc-tite.
    They are pretty cheap ~ 4 for about $7.00
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    They are allen screws and it is stripped

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    try a square head bit or try tapping it with a flat blade screwdriver and small hammer to get it to spin


    unless you destroy the grips other thing to do is drill the head off

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    Even if it's an allen head you could still cut a slot in it and then use a screw driver blade. Another stunt I've used is to actually use steel filled epoxy in the hole with an allen wrench in it. Let it cure then back it out. Wont work if the screw is cross threaded or really locked in though. Helps to degrease it first as well.
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    You can take the next larger size allen wrench and just carefully grind a little tapered bevel on the end of the flats - until it looks like it will barely fit into the stripped out hole - then line it up and tap it in with a hammer to force it in. Try that.
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    Since it is an allen head screw try using a similar sized but larger metric. I deal with allen heads all the time at work and using a metric usaully does the trick. I will close with the standard "tech support" good luck.

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    Metric allen worked THANKS to all for your help

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    Good Deal glad ya got it out ..

    I was Cleaning the old ladys colt yesterday and it has loose grip screw and none of the std allen wrenchs would fit it what is up with that ..

    Needless to say whole new set of grip screws on the way

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