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    "Pigeon" grade?

    What does this mean with regards to shotguns?
    Does it have anything to do with the amount, or level, of ornamentation?
    What are the other grades?
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    Pigeon Grade
    A pigeon grade shotgun these days usually means a higher than average or "standard" quality shotgun.
    Traditionally is was a shotgun also of slightly heavier construction due to the fact that heavier and more potent loads were used to knock the poor little dumb but, innocent birdies out of the sky.
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    These days Pigeon Grade is any shotty that is considered to be a grade above or over "Trap" grade. No...strike that...Trap - Skeet & then pigeon.
    Hope this information helps.
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    Thanks QK!
    So, is "trap" grade the lowest?
    What are the others?

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    Oh geesh...now you're bending my memory over backward.


    >Standard Grade
    >Deluxe Grade
    >Trap Grade
    >Skeet Grade
    >Pigeon Grade
    >Presentation Grade

    I think that's right. Different makers sometimes have different names and not all shottys are made in all grades.
    I think some makers also have a "Gold" Presentation
    but, then (I think you're up into the MANY thousands of dollars)
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    A pidgen grade shotty is roughly a bbq grade pistol ... it shows all the finer things in life but is not a museum piece . Pidgon grade will show engraving and inlay over standard ... but it will also show top notch burlled wood .. the stock blank for a pidgen grade may well cost more than the base model shotgun . Pidgen grade guns are not about value , they are about appreciation and a joy to shoot ( no i do not own one )

    Edited to add a pidgen grade shotty will likely be stocked to shoot high , ie shoot a bird on the rise . similar to a trap shottie , but a bit different . The stock is designed to set you up on a live bird leaving the ground inside 50 yards . ( back where the money happens , and dont ask aobout the kids shot throwin live birds in past years ,
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    Thanks guys!

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    pigeon is also one of the four traditional high grades of browning superposed. pigeon, pointer, diana, and midas. i think "field" is used by most makers for the lowest, unornamented styling.
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    Dad has a sweet little Belgium Browning superposed 20ga. in Diana grade, I have threatened to institutionalize him if he ever gets rid of before I can inherit.
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    the 20 gauge Diana superposed is, to my mind, one of the most desirable shotguns ever made at any price. I much prefer the Diana engraving to the Midas, and the 20 gauge super is, well, super! the
    12s are kind of clunky, but the 20s are grouse wands.
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    Dad has a sweet little Belgium Browning superposed 20ga. in Diana grade
    Superposed??
    What is that?
    Diana??
    Midas??
    Jeez! I had no idea there was such a variety?
    Is there a site that depicts all these different models/styles?

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    You forgot "Pimpin' Grade." On these, the barrel(s) is cut to 14 inches (with a hacksaw or pipe cutter). The serial number is obliterated with a steel punch-preferably with a tasteful number of stray hits around the number. These are usually custom guns, so the stock is cut to fit. "To fit" means whether it needs to be short enough to hide in a car door panel, use as a handgun, or hang from a strap (plastic belt nailed to stock) over your shoulder but under your long leather coat. A really nice one will have electrical or duct tape wrapped around the cut on the stock to keep the splinters from sticking you under the arm/in the ribcage.
    I'm not sure there is a site for those.
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