Guns an Water
This is a discussion on Guns an Water within the General Firearm Discussion forums, part of the Related Topics category; I'm taking the kids canoing tomorrow (for their first time) and I'm a bit concerned about being tipped and going in. We can all swim ...
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August 29th, 2007 07:58 PM
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Guns an Water
I'm taking the kids canoing tomorrow (for their first time) and I'm a bit concerned about being tipped and going in. We can all swim and stuff and I know I can clean most of the gun OK, but what about all that tiny stuff deeply buried within the slide of my XD9SC? What could I do to ensure that nothing is corroding in there if the gun got dunked? Pointless worry?
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August 29th, 2007 07:58 PM
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August 29th, 2007 08:31 PM
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Something to think about - better to have a plan!!
My approach would be - just for once WD40 could be useful!!! If the innards were fully flushed then that should displace the water - good start (WD=Water Displacement - the one thing it's good for!).
Then - next stage for me would be (polymer safe) carb/brake cleaner (in well ventilated area) and if possible then good blasts of compressed air. Finally attend to the lube aspect by applying small drops to internals with a tooth pick tip - and work the action - enough to disperse and lube hopefully but no excess to attract crud too much.
Finally of course - regular lube per the usual reassembly after field strip.
I am thinking too - holster have retention? Got a lanyard to keep gun attached to self? Deep sixing could be a problem
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August 29th, 2007 08:38 PM
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I've got one of those vacuum seal food storage bag devices. If you were closer I could seal it up in plastic for you, if you got dunked it'd be fine. Maybe a thought is putting it inside a zip lock back (maybe two) and then holster the gun. If you got dunked you could probably get the gun above water quick enough to prevent it from being totally wet.
If it did get wet and gunky how about the steaming hot shower trick to clean it?
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August 29th, 2007 08:54 PM
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I don't take my semi's kayaking...I take a revolver. It's not the BG's I worry so much about, but rather the 'gators'...(It's a FL thing!).
I have tipped with the gun getting wet...just took it apart and gave it a complete cleaning and lube...not a problem.
I do think the double zip-lock bag trick could work (suck the air out prior to sealing)...
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August 29th, 2007 10:28 PM
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And if you had a Glock you wouldn't have to worry about all of this... 
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August 29th, 2007 10:52 PM
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My hK gets clipped to a lanyard and then in the holster. Its made to be salt water resistant, but I would probably flush it out if it went swimming with me, like P95 described.
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August 30th, 2007 04:37 AM
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A Glock, SIG or Hk is a good idea but there are some parts internally that will rust on all of them. I would vacum seal or get a dry bag from a local sporting goods store if I were concerned about it. Carry along a can of break cleaner to blow it out later, lube and reassemble. The break cleaner will displace any water and due to it's high alcohol content dries very fast.
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August 30th, 2007 06:25 AM
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quit worrying yourself over nothing. It's an XD
do what you can with what you have where you are at (theodore roosevelt)

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August 30th, 2007 06:44 AM
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Originally Posted by
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And if you had a Glock you wouldn't have to worry about all of this...
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I'm a big Glock fan, but it doesn't change the fact that even if it's a Glock, if you get it wet you're gonna want to take it completely apart before relying on it again, and especially before leaving it alone with gun in it to corrode springs and such.
No, I would pack the gun in a Pelican case and tether that to the canoe. Either that or one of those roll-down drybags. They work well for me. It's what I use.
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August 30th, 2007 07:52 AM
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Thanks all and Chris, you have a good point about retention. Maybe I'll leave it behind this time and plan a little more ahead of time in the future. Maybe get a revo...

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And if you had a Glock you wouldn't have to worry about all of this...
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If I had a Glock I couldn't hit anything without the sights (as in, under fire).
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August 30th, 2007 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by
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I don't take my semi's kayaking...I take a revolver. It's not the BG's I worry so much about, but rather the 'gators'...(It's a FL thing!).
Gators? You call them little lizards you got up there gators?
I'll second retsup on the revo specially if doused with WD 40 like Chris mentions with a secure flap holster firmly attached to your person somewhere.
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August 30th, 2007 09:52 AM
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I'll second P95's suggestion, with the addition that anytime I use an aerosol solvent on the guts of a gun, I follow up with an aerosol penetrating lube to get in and coat the fiddly bits that I can't see. My personal preference is G96.
Make sure you have a lanyard or other retention or you might end up losing it.
If you do bag the gun, don't holster it - you'll end up with a loose holster. I wouldn't even wear a leather holster around water, now's the perfect time for a cheap Fobus.
Other than that, don't sweat it. A little water ain't gonna hurt a thing. Just be sure and give it a good cleaning at the end of the day - even if you don't get dunked, it will get a lot of moisture and condensate.
Joe
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August 30th, 2007 10:12 AM
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I do fine in dynamic drills with the Glock, but it's also the gun that constitutes 99% of my handgun experience. I only mention it because once a round is chambered the seal is airtight, and you can technically fire underwater.
Technically. As if you wanted to stake your life on that word. 
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