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    SA has no engineers?

    Ok. So I am a soon to be engineer and was looking around at possible places to get a job (specifically gun manufacturers).
    Anyways. I email springfield armory (as well as many others) with some general questions and this was my reply from SA:
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    Thank you for your interest in Springfield Armory. Regretfully we do not
    have an engineering department, nor do we employ an engineer at this
    time. Most of our guns are built to spec according to long-standing
    drawings/in-house standards. Please reply to this e-mail if you have any
    questions.
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    So my first reaction was ! SA has no engineers?
    then i read more carefully and realized maybe they have an engineer or two but just doesnt have an engineering dept and arent looking for any engineers right now (but my email wasnt implying i wanted a job as an engineer there- i wanted general info about engineers there).
    So i donno. Im confused

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    Quote Originally Posted by friesepferd View Post
    Ok. So I am a soon to be engineer and was looking around at possible places to get a job (specifically gun manufacturers).
    Anyways. I email springfield armory (as well as many others) with some general questions and this was my reply from SA:
    ---------
    Thank you for your interest in Springfield Armory. Regretfully we do not
    have an engineering department, nor do we employ an engineer at this
    time. Most of our guns are built to spec according to long-standing
    drawings/in-house standards. Please reply to this e-mail if you have any
    questions.
    ---------
    So my first reaction was ! SA has no engineers?
    then i read more carefully and realized maybe they have an engineer or two but just doesnt have an engineering dept and arent looking for any engineers right now (but my email wasnt implying i wanted a job as an engineer there- i wanted general info about engineers there).
    So i donno. Im confused
    What about other manufacturers? I see you carry a Kimber Aegis. Nice pistol and I love mine! Have you tried them? Try calling Kel-Tec as they're coming out with new stuff all the time and they're still a fairly small company that might be expanding soon. Also, I wonder if gun manufacturers actually use "real" engineers or, rather, CAD/CAM type designers, etc...

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    Must be several manufacturers who could provide jobs for engineers, if they are into enough of systems aspect, PLC etc.

    I doubt there is as much hands-on these days but - reckon you just gotta go thru em all and make contact.
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    Quote Originally Posted by P95Carry View Post
    Must be several manufacturers who could provide jobs for engineers, if they are into enough of systems aspect, PLC etc.

    I doubt there is as much hands-on these days but - reckon you just gotta go thru em all and make contact.
    PLC?

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    Quote Originally Posted by glocksandkahrs View Post
    PLC?
    Programmable Logic Computer

    You tell it what to do, it does the work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JD View Post
    Programmable Logic Computer

    You tell it what to do, it does the work.
    Ah, thanks. I refer to is as Computer Aided Manufacturing...

    In general, all computers use programmable logic...

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    I don't know if you'd be willing to relocate, but Sig seems to have an opening or 2 often enough you ought to be able to catch one. I was at a class led by Sig instructors earlier this year and speaking with them after the class they were adamant that it was a great place to work for all levels of employees. Plus its in NH, which after traveling quite a bit I think is still a pretty good place to live. Plus I'm sure you get a discount on their products

    Heres a link to some of their openings-
    http://www.jobsinnh.com/seek/coresul...x?co_num=10125

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    yea. i know theres plenty of other places to look. iv emailed quite a few ppl. im currently going through the whole 'get a job or go to grad school' debate in my head. i think im gonna explode

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    SA has no engineers?
    Maybe not, their 1911 are made by IMBEL and the XDs are imported from Croatia.
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    How do they get new designs out then? Specifically the EMP? Who re designed the Champion feed ramp and other slight modifications?
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    Sounds like SA would farm out any engineering that they may need (read India). Welcome to the new "Made in USA".

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    Quote Originally Posted by crankshop1000 View Post
    Sounds like SA would farm out any engineering that they may need (read India). Welcome to the new "Made in USA".
    I was thinking pretty much the same thing. SA may not actually employ an engineering dept, but they may have a contract with a local eng firm to do their work for them as they need it done.
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    Advice

    I am also an engineer, but got my education a long time ago. I have noticed that the gun industry is really not very large in the US, compared to other industries that employ a lot of scientists and engineers. Additionally, the technology of guns doesn't move ahead that rapidly compared to other industries. So unless you are determined to work on guns, you might find better employment possibilities in such industries as:

    - medical devices
    - software
    - computer hardware
    - defense products
    - electronic equipment
    - semiconductors
    - energy
    - chemicals

    And you probably have to get out of Michigan, whose economy is stagnating a bit because of dependence upon the automobile industry.

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    All engineering / designing done overseas now days.. Can't let AMERICANS do it. We cost to much. Let some dude in India do it cheaper.

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