September 16th, 2007 04:39 PM
Best outrageous claims of bullet/gun capabilities?
Yesterday I stopped by a local sporting goods store, looking for .45 ACP defense ammo. The clerk suggested round nose and FMJ 230 grn , because"it will stop a truck" and "it will punch thru and engine block" . I replied I was looking for something more to stop and attacker rather than a truck, and the HP hydrashok ammo would work better, thanks.
He then told me, "it's only 165 grn , and will work at close range , but past 25 ft. it is inaccurate" and "if I hit a shoulder it will take the arm off " . The 9mm hydrashoks are deadly too, but he didn't mention any enguine killing with em . He also told me he had experience from shooting in the Army.
So whats the most outrageous claims you guys have heard?
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September 16th, 2007 04:43 PM
Every other time I hear the term "tack driver" at the range, I am not surprised to see a target that fails to back up the claims. Invariably, it's got 1/2" (or larger) groupings, with distinctly separate bullet holes. 1/2" groups? Big tacks, I guess.
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September 16th, 2007 04:46 PM
That guy is close to an award winner
Other varieties ........
"It'll stop an elephant" ...... .45 acp.
"Go straight thru armor plate" ....... .44 mag.
"Good for sniping out to 1,000 yards" ....... the .223!"
"Knock ya clean orf ya feet" ......... .357 mag.
"Probably send ya into the next zip code" ... 12G!
I have heard so many over years Rocky - many of course due to Hollywood!
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September 16th, 2007 05:56 PM
I know of one expert who claims a 45 ACP hit to the hand of an attacker will spin him 360 degrees and then he'll fall over from the impact. I wanna know where I can find some of those rounds for mine!
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September 16th, 2007 07:52 PM
Blended Metal bullets or the Extreme Shock line of bullets.
September 16th, 2007 07:58 PM
September 16th, 2007 08:04 PM
Went into a gun store a couple months ago and there was a customer that had just ordered a pistol. As they were finishing up and the customer was about to leave the salesperson mentioned the FN 57 pistol. He told the customer that it would penetrate three vests. Then he tells the customer that it looked like Congress was fixing to pass a law to ban the pistol. The customer changed his pistol order to a FN 57 on the spot.
In describing the vest penetration he didn't distinguish between levels 1,11A,11or 111A and the customer didn't ask. He didn't mention that there is a 'SS192" and also a "SS196" bullet.
According to FNH USA the SS196 will not penetrate the level 11 vest and the SS192 will not penetrate the level 111A vest. SS192 is no longer imported for the US for commercial purposes.
September 16th, 2007 08:13 PM
The SS195LF is the 192 with a non-lead primer or something. And the 196 is not being sold any longer either as it was replaced with the SS197. The 197 has a bit more punch than the 196 with the same bullet. Well, the 197 has a blue tip rather than a red but that is just cosmetic so you know what you have.
Originally Posted by P7fanatic
September 16th, 2007 08:27 PM
Just about any Hollywood movie with guns is usually outrageous...just count the shots in any semi used!
Can they really hold 42 shots in a mag made for 10...how DO they do that?
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September 16th, 2007 08:43 PM
How about .410 slug "more lethal and more accurate than a 7mm Mag. at 300 yards." Dare I say more???????
September 16th, 2007 09:16 PM
Or the bullet that goes through a body, 3 walls, ends up in inside the family dog and CSI recovers it in perfect shape?
You have to make the shot when fire is smoking, people are screaming, dogs are barking, kids are crying and sirens are coming.
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September 16th, 2007 09:32 PM
How about the outageous claims that the anti's use against the .50 BMG...
anyone can punch though a tank at 2 miles...
punches though any amour plate made...
can shoot down an airliner with a single bullet....
anybody can pick one up and snipe out to 2000 yards...
to name a few.
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September 16th, 2007 10:04 PM
Over 20 Year ago...
Had a guy tell me that he blew a telephone pole in half from .44 Mag shot.
I was so convinced, I drove out to where he said he did this???
Lots of firearm education later, and I won't be fooled again..
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September 16th, 2007 11:48 PM
Assault Weapons are not used for hunting because there would not be any meat left to strap on the hood of the truck.
ANYONE can buy a AK47 through the mail for under $200 (Told by a BATF agent to a newspaper in FL following the shooting of a LEO last week (according to the paper))
Pistol Grips are on Assault Weapons so that you can spray from the hip.
You can make a AR15 fully auto with a nail file and a paper clip.
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September 16th, 2007 11:54 PM
Not necessarily about the caliber per se, but I heard this about a sawed off shotgun: All you have to do is point it down a hallway, and you will hit anything between the plaster.
I couldn't help but to laugh out loud as I turned from the counter and walked out.
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