Will Ruger follow Winchester's demise?

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    Will Ruger follow Winchester's demise?

    Doesn't sound good for Ruger's future:

    http://money.cnn.com/news/newsfeeds/...3-20498467.htm
    Shares of Sturm Ruger & Co. (NYSE:RGR) fell sharply Thursday after the company posted a third-quarter loss and sales decreased from the comparable quarter last year.
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    Start selling factory 20 and 30 round Mini-14 mags and watch sales go on an upswing.

    Otherwise, if the company goes...well...the only people I'll feel for are the blue collar staff. The executives cut their own wrists themselves.

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    Winchester did not die , they killed some unprofatable models . In fact i hear that some of the " issues " such as the pre 64 style mod 70 may well be picked up and made by fn's plant here in the us . The " simple " stuff will most likely still be made in japan by miroku .
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    I know the Ruger facility/factory here in Prescott just sliced itself in half.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Redneck Repairs View Post
    In fact i hear that some of the " issues " such as the pre 64 style mod 70 may well be picked up and made by fn's plant here in the us .
    Winchester press release;

    The Model 70 Is Back!

    Morgan, Utah – The Winchester Model 70 is one of the most respected bolt-action rifle designs in the world. Winchester Repeating Arms is excited to announce the return of the Model 70 for 2008. The All-American Model 70s will be built by American craftsmen in Columbia, South Carolina, at the same state-of-the-art factory (FN Manufacturing) as the rifles and machine guns used by America’s Armed Forces. They are made to the exact ISO 9001 standard of quality that the U.S. Government insists upon for military firearms.

    For 2008 the new Model 70 has the all new M.O.A.™ Trigger System, improved fit and finish and enhanced accuracy to go along with its classic Pre-64 Controlled Round Feeding, Three-Position safety and solid, sure handling.

    M.O.A. ™ Trigger System: The new Model 70 M.O.A. Trigger System is the most precise three-lever trigger system ever offered to sportsmen. Operating on a simple pivoting lever principle the trigger mechanism has been completely redesigned to exhibit zero take up, zero creep and zero overtravel. The pull weight ranges from 3 to 5 pounds and is factory-set at 3 ¾ pounds. Because of the enhanced ergonomics, wide smooth triggerpiece and 2:1 mechanical advantage created by the unique design geometry, it actually feels like half that weight.

    Three-Position Safety: The improved three-position safety on the new Model 70 has proven effective and highly popular with hunters and shooters for decades. Convenient to operate with the thumb of the firing hand, the Model 70 safety lifts the firing pin away from the sear. When the safety selector is in the middle position, the action can still be operated, allowing unfired cartridges to be cycled with the safety on.

    Hammer-Forged Barrel: Model 70 barrels are cold hammer-forged from a solid billet of steel for accuracy and long life. Massive rotary hammers shape the barrel steel around a mandrel to create the rifling. The barrel is threaded, target crowned and installed on the receiver. The chamber is then reamed and the bolt is headspaced. This results in 1 MOA accuracy for three-shot groups using properly managed barrel, quality match ammo and superior optics under ideal weather and range conditions.

    Blade-Type Ejector: The Model 70’s blade-type ejector allows full control when ejecting a fired case. When pulling the bolt back slowly the empty case pops out gently; which is perfect for target shooters and varminters. Pulling the bolt back smartly allows the empty case to clear the port with greater force. The blade-type ejector helps to eliminate short-stroking malfunctions.|

    The new Winchester Model 70 will be offered in a Super Grade, Featherweight™ Deluxe, Sporter Deluxe and Extreme Weather SS models for 2008. All will feature a thick black Pachmayr® Decelerator® pad that will help take the bite out of recoil.

    The Super Grade will be offered in 30-06 Sprg. And 300 Win. Mag and will feature a fancy grade walnut stock with contrasting black fore-end tip and pistol grip cap and a sculpted shadowline cheekpiece. Suggested retail is $1,149.00.
    The Featherweight Deluxe has an angled comb walnut stock with Schnabel fore-end and satin finish with elegant cut checkering. It will be offered in popular long and short action calibers, including WSM chambering. Suggested retail is $999.00 to $1,049.00.

    The Sporter Deluxe features a satin finished walnut stock with cut checkering on trim fore-end and pistol grip, along with a sculpted cheekpiece. It will be available in popular long action and short action WSM calibers. Suggested retail is $999.00 to $1,049.00.

    The Extreme Weather SS‘s premium Bell and Carlson composite stock features a trim, light feel with textured matte surface that gives a sure grip in any conditions. The Extreme Weather SS has a free floating, fluted stainless barrel to help minimize weight. It will be available in popular long action and short action WSM calibers. Suggested retail is $1,149.00 to $1,199.00.

    Delivery on all models will begin in June of 2008.
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    I dont think Ruger is going anywhere anytime soon. They might have tough times ahead, but they do have some great bread and butter type products out there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SIXTO View Post
    I dont think Ruger is going anywhere anytime soon. They might have tough times ahead, but they do have some great bread and butter type products out there.
    I thought the same thing 10 years ago about Winchester. The only good thing is all my Winchester lever guns are now worth a lot more.....I guess maybe the same fate could occur for my Rugers..............

    It just makes me realize how endangered firearm ownership could get in the future.
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    I wish they would bring back the "skeletonized" synthetic stock / stainless rifles they used to make. I would probably end up with one of every caliber they would offer. If---if they would go the way of Winchester, and the value of the guns would go up like Winchester's boy that would help with my collection.


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    The short answer to your question is "Yes." The momentum in the U.S. firearms market has shifted to sports shooting and law enforcement sales. This market indicates a focus on black rifles, Glocks, XDs, and 1911s. In contrast, Ruger's emphasis remains on hunting, which is declining in popularity.

    Ruger's product line has been pretty much stuck in 1988, and, yes, its ongoing refusal to sell (to the general public) factory 20 or 30 round magazines for its semi-automatic rifles is a bad business decision. Of course, the Mini-14 and 30 are crap anyway, so I am not sure it matters. As for handguns (don't get started on the pistols), the introduction of the SR9 by Ruger is intended to remedy the lack of product for the current market, but it may be too little too late.

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    Well they just came out with a cool new 9mm. Maybe a few more sexy products will bring them back. Or not.
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